Keep asking questions and listen.
Dont be a teller be a listener and learner
Wally
Keep asking questions and listen.
Dont be a teller be a listener and learner
Wally
can't beat time on the water, and fishing for the same species on different tides, moon, wind direction.
definately in the 10% and have been for many years...
I am definitely in the 10%..the bottom 10 that is. I too have been trying to catch a legal snapper but all to no avail. I have 2 more trips planned...if not successful on either of them then I give up...not interested any longer in trying to catch something that obviously I do not have the ability to catch. So reality strikes and back to the old estuary haunts. Might be some cheap fishing gear soon.
Originally Posted by PinHead
You got any stradics there Pinhead?? just kidding mate.
Where have you been trying for a snapper mate?
Jack.
As most of the posts above have stated.
PERSISTENCE IS THE KEY!!
Keep practicing.
That's why they call it fishing......otherwise, they would call it catching!!
Cheers,
Location, location, location! Know the species you're chasing, adjust your tackle accordingly, then fish the hell outta the briney til you find some productive locations. Once they are found, it will become so much easier for you. Don't be afraid to experiment.
Cuzza
It's a numbers game... Deckies come out and spend more time fartarsing around with their tackle upon arriving at spot X where I have tied my leaders and tested knots/ drag the night before. I have occasionally had my 1st fish before the deckie has the 1st cast. Others spend more time making coffee and chinwagging than being attentive to what's happening at the end of their line. Like me, I can't do two things at onceI laugh at the bumper sticker that says " Just shut up and fish!!"
Whoever thought of that one knows what I am talking about.
Skippers can fall into the " I think it will fish better over there" syndrome and think that after 10 minutes at any one location without a bite is unproductive, and move on.... so the actual time spent with line in the water is small when most of the time is spent motoring around .... and when they arive at spot x they pass over the same spot a few times with eyes glued to the sounder... If there were any snapper, after the 1st pass, the smarter, bigger fish are long gone!! The noisy anchor chain over the side just puts additional odds against in the fish's favour.
And I have not even started looking at bait presentation/ freshness, moon phases, techniques ...... It's a lottery thats for sure!!
Scalem
you should be fishing all the time and when you cant fish anymore ,talk fish to anyone who will listen, there are plenty of obsessed fishos out there. put all the information together and your catch rate will climb. There are some people who are just born with the knack ,im not one of them but im a fast learner.
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Hey Crunchy;
I fished around the world for over 50years, fresh, salt, estuary. Each time you come to a new location you MUST find out their local methods. By all means read about the area (use google if you are on the internet to do basic research - thats a fast start) to find what spots produce and when, then find out if there is a charter available in that area and try them first - that saves you about 60% of the hard research and will give a fair indication of what you are likely to get. Talk to the local tackle shop dealers as well when you buy your bait etc. Half of them will only pass on what they have heard, but the other half will be extremely helpful and will tell you which charters are good and may even suggest a couple of spots to fish. Talk to the more sober people on the boat ramps - they wont tell you where they went, but you will see from their rods in the racks etc what the local methods are e.g. plastics/jigs/floatlining/bottom bashing, proportion of braid to mono users, overheads to spin rigs etc etc. Once you see 10 boats on a ramp you will know what most are doing and what the main catch in the area was. Thats just the start of it. Then you have to go and do it.
Good luck
Plato
for me it's all about finding the bait schools, find the bait & you will find the fish!
weather it be in the creek or out in the bay. no good rocking up with a bag of squid or pillies if the fish are smashing into live mullet... get those livies, same out in the bay i will match the size of the bait with a lure either hb, sp, or a slug if i am not catching the bait on a bait jig. if the bait is spread out nothing is happening if the bait is in a tight ball you will be in for a show!!
ron.
reels screamin aboard Hyper- Active
Thanks Guys
Some good advice in amongst that lot for sure, here is an attempt to summarise & bullet point most of the ideas presented so far, I highlighted the points in red that I think are key IMHO....
* Target a species and become proficient at it
* Go on a good charter (Definately some merit)
* Persistence (Only if your improving, no point in persisting down the wrong path)
* Talk to as many fisho's / industry types (I.e. bait shops, ramps etc) as possible
* Pay attention to lunar cycles, bite times wind, tide etc (Has merit)
* Fish with light gear (Agree)
* Spend the time on the water (Let's make that quality time)
* Good set of GPS marks for all seasons (More and more I see this as critical, big ocean out there with a lot of emptyness)
* Numbers game, time spent with line in the water (A mistake I often make, work those lures, have that bait in the water)
* Learn the local environment
* Find the bait find the fish
Some of ideas won't really get you from the 90% to the 10%...for example if 10% of fisho's catch 90% of the fish (No idea what the real ratio is but its probably something like that) then you really only want to be talking to that 10% or else your going to end up following the lead of the 90% your already inNo offence is intended here!
I would add to the list...have a good mentor who knows his stuff for the local area (Any volumteers?)
Cheers
Crunchy
Stop spending time in front of computer screen and get out and go fishing.
Kev
Phone Smithy and get out on his charter
Plato
That is a pretty good summary Crunchy. Close to the money I reckon.Thanks Guys
Some good advice in amongst that lot for sure, here is an attempt to summarise & bullet point most of the ideas presented so far, I highlighted the points in red that I think are key IMHO....
* Target a species and become proficient at it
* Go on a good charter (Definately some merit)
* Persistence (Only if your improving, no point in persisting down the wrong path)
* Talk to as many fisho's / industry types (I.e. bait shops, ramps etc) as possible
* Pay attention to lunar cycles, bite times wind, tide etc (Has merit)
* Fish with light gear (Agree)
* Spend the time on the water (Let's make that quality time)
* Good set of GPS marks for all seasons (More and more I see this as critical, big ocean out there with a lot of emptyness)
* Numbers game, time spent with line in the water (A mistake I often make, work those lures, have that bait in the water)
* Learn the local environment
* Find the bait find the fish
Some of ideas won't really get you from the 90% to the 10%...for example if 10% of fisho's catch 90% of the fish (No idea what the real ratio is but its probably something like that) then you really only want to be talking to that 10% or else your going to end up following the lead of the 90% your already in
I would add to the list...have a good mentor who knows his stuff for the local area (Any volumteers?)
Cheers
Crunchy
Scalem made a few very good points above. I also used to take deckies out who hadn't done their preparation and were trying to tie doubles and leaders or make rigs out on the water. Way behind the 8-ball. Also I agree that moving around too much will result in an empty esky. If you are on a good spot, often it is better to stay, keep quiet and burley and the fish will turn up eventually.
Hope to see some good reports from you soon!
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
LOL Kev..there is one factor there...finding the time to go fishing...not easy at times and when the time is available the weather does not play the game.
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