Unreal report mate!
Good to see the Saragosa getting a work out.
Did you end up buying a heavier rod?
Nick
Originally Posted by nickstock
thanks nick,
took the berkley dropshot back and exchanged it for a 37kg ugly stick jig rod. Very happy with the overall set up for the deep water now, it has some very serious stopping power and is easier on the arms after a session like we had.
Cheers
Josh
Sounds like a winner mate.
What leader are you running? I was landing about 1 fish out of every 4 hooked on Sunday? I was using 80 pound Black Magic with no luck?
Nick
Why were you loosing so many fish, tackle failure or knots slipping??
We use 100lb mono leader. The shoals where we get the reds is fairly open ground. By having the extra strength with the leader, we are able to tighten up the drags and try to get the fish up before the sharkies get to them.
I am unsure why,
I am not happy with the leader though as it is very soft. I am thinking that the eye of the hook may have been rubbing through on a few and on a couple of occasions the leader looked as though it had just rubbed through.
I bought some Penn 10X 150lb today. The country we were fishing has coral pinnacles rising about 2 meters off the bottom. I was thinking that a few of the fish may have rubbed thye leader through on their gill plates????
The reason I say this is because we got a Jack about 4.5-5 kilo and it snapped a ganged 8/0 true turn in its gill plate. On landing the fish, two of the three hooks were still in the Jacks mouth. My logic was that if it could snap a hook then they could rub through a very soft leader??
What do you think Josh?
Nick
I have experienced problems of the leader line snapping on the loop where i connect my hook some months ago, and i put it down to the way i was attaching the hook onto the loop of the paternoster rig. Instead of going directly through the loop once and pulling tight, i'd go through the loop, give the hook a twist so the line would kind of double up around the hook once you pull tight.. I stopped trying to be fancy, and i didn't break any more off at the hook.
Those true turn hooks, although they are a great hook and they gang up easy, we have straightened them on reds before. Also, because they do gang up so easy, therefore they also un-gang just as easy if you get any slack in the line during the fight.
I'd highly doubt that the gill rakes would have been rubbing through on the 80lb leader the way these fish fight (definatley nothing like barra).
Was the hook actually snapped in half?? If so it might just be a bad one, it does happen.
I have come across a bad batch of hooks also recently, not the true turns, but the gamaksu octopus circles, and have snapped numerous hooks. I have about 10 from the last trip in the top of my tackle box ready to give to the gamaksu rep (they wanted to take them back to the factory for a closer inspection.)
Just check that the 150lb will still fit through the eye of the hooks you fish with. The 100lb is the biggest diameter we can fit through the gamaksu hooks on a paternoster rig.
Cheers
Josh
Thanks Josh,
I was talking to a local bloke that catches his fair share of Reds out of Cooktown. He uses 150 pound mono and just crimps it rather than tying. It may be a bit over kill but he prefers to use the one rig for everything from Reds, Nannies to Jobbies ect.
He also said that the hook was probably just a dud. The hook actually snapped in half and was still lodged in the Jacks gill plate??
When I am talking about the 'gill plates' I mean the outside of the gill. (I may be using the wrong term?)
I just tried and the 150 lb and it fits through the 10/0 Gamakatsu's that I use.
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