New 60 HP 4 stroke Honda for Kevlacat 5.2

[Maccas]

Read in Club Marine magazine that the new 60 Hp 4 stroke Honda is only 110kg . That's even lighter than the Yammie 60Hp 4 stroke. With the new BLAST technology would these be a better match for the KC 5.2 than the Yammies. Anyone had any experience with the Blast motors versus the earlier 4 strokes and does the Blast technology make much of a difference.

Cheers,

Maccas

[bennyboy]

110kg is the same weight as the Yammy

[Maccas]

In F&B magazine they have a price list of most outboard motors and the 4 stoke Yammie is shown as 115kg withe the high thrust model same as what some guys on here are running as 120kg.

Maccas

[Dean1]

Ye mate my yammies are about 120kg.

You may be onto something. What is the cost of a Honda 60? Have you priced one? Garry (Spaniard King) emailed me a vid on the new honda, they look good.

PM me your email and ill flick it to you. I wish somebody would bring in a 70 4 stroke weighing in at 120kg!! Cheers.

[Noelm]

that seems to be th problem, the weights are OK to about 60HP, then they seem to go up very quickly to the next HP range.

[Greg P]

The new Zuke 60s are supposed to be lightest in class now but I havent seen any specs as yet.

The Hondas would be a very nice donk though.

[finding_time]

I haven't seen the honda's yet, but do they come in a high thrust model? As the 60 hp yami and the 60 hp high thrust are a differant beasts and run very differant props. It seems to be the high thrust model that works well on the cats! Comments?

[Spaniard_King]

I beleive 116kg for the 25 inch power thrust model

PM me your email adress and I will send you the media kit (specs) on the new Honda 60

[finding_time]

I beleive 116kg for the 25 inch power thrust model

PM me your email adress and I will send you the media kit (specs) on the new Honda 60

So they do have a high thrust , great! Dont think the weight savings is an issue 3kg per side but it's aways good to have another player in the range! Garry is it like the yami and runs a larger gearbox?

Ian

Ps I have been using a pair of Steel blue Honda hybrids for a few years now

[Dicko]

What's this "blast" technology ?

[cormorant]

Welll the manufacturers blurb says





BLAST™

Honda’s revolutionary Boosted Low Speed Torque (BLAST™) air/fuel ratio and ignition-timing technology was first employed in Honda’s BF75/90, released in September 2006.
BLAST™ utilises MBT – Minimum advance for Best Torque – trace control, which is based on basic engine ignition timing theory. By linking the ignition timing control of the engine to the air/fuel ratio, it sets the optimum timing via computer control.
BLAST™ traces the air/fuel ratio that results in the maximum torque for each engine revolution, while simultaneously tracing the maximum knock limit ignition timing that can be obtained using a rich air/fuel ratio in the full throttle zone, and advances the ignition timing to the limit (27°), in order to produce greater torque.
This boost in horsepower and torque at low rpm contributes to strong hole shot performance to get the hull up on plane quickly! BLAST™ ensures strong acceleration to get boats on the plane quicker!

[Dicko]

Thanks.

From that, it looks like it does what most other factory or aftermarkets ECU's do.

It's a bit sad really. Honda usually build good products anyway, they don't need to resort to tacky marketing twists on already used techniques to show they can set up an ECU to manage an engine efficiently.

[FNQCairns]

all

Thanks.

From that, it looks like it does what most other factory or aftermarkets ECU's do.

It's a bit sad really. Honda usually build good products anyway, they don't need to resort to tacky marketing twists on already used techniques to show they can set up an ECU to manage an engine efficiently.

Yeah it's just marketing bulldust, remember the 'O2 advantage' Toyota used in their cars back in 1985 same dog different leg, not detracting in any way from the engine ability or usefulness as an outboard it's probably very good, just have trouble stomaching the come in spinner labelling of nothing new or special as something that makes a difference because they called it a name.

Gotta expect it from Honda today in every market the hold, just look at the pollution marketing bandwagon they have heavily jumped on to get extra sales from those easily hoodwinked.

cheers fnq

[Scaredy Cat]

Suggest you talk to Steve from Solas, I believe he has been working on props for the new 6o honda's. I beleive it was quite a challange and major redesign of existing props, I dont know the full details but he did state that they have more grunt than others on the market

[black runner]

Looks sweet (and I own a yammie 60), virtually the same cc (just under 1000cc) and weight (110-120 kgs) as the Yamaha. Honda 3 cylinder 12valve compared to Yamaha 4 cylinder 8 valve.

It would be useful to know torque/rpm fiqures for both motors. The absence of this info is something that really p's me off about the outboard industry. It is a critical piece of info that you can only guestimate from checking detailed specs like bore/stroke/No cylinder and hp data. Your average punter with no mechanical knowledge can easily buy the wrong powerplant (based solely on hp) if they don't get decent advice from a reputable/experienced dealer or Ausfish.

Cheers