Originally Posted by PinHead
Pinhead,
Are you endorsing photo shopping of fish pics, yes or no, I dont care whats new or old, what are you saying is acceptable?
Heres my opinion, only claim what you have caught, cheaters/liers are bottom feeders.
Is this the same fish?
Who caught it?
I was trying to figure out where that post went, maybe one of the mods could shed some light on why that post that deleted?
Nope pinhead none would just look at the pics, most would read selected articles, or some cover to cover but I always read the captions under most of the pics in it hence noticing a few of the photoshop big noters....
Its simple where ever you put a article it should be a straight down the line print with select hints and tips, highlights etc and True to the catch of the Trip Pictures!!!!!
At the end of the day its simple the the passionate fishos that read these mags are simply going to not buy them, and these fools who have no choice to add these pictures will cause a reader loss for the sake of a picture they could have used but not put there name too.
I'd rather read posts in Ausfish than magazines......
It was the non-ausfish member who caught the fish, the ausfish member "Webby"(Brian Webb) photoshopped it with his head on top of the other mans head and edited the background etc. Pretty much claiming that it was his fish that he caught which is a pretty dog act IMO. My thought on why the thread was deleted so quickly was because the webby is many friends with the mods and admin on this site, so they are trying to protect his reputation. I for one beleive that he should face it and deal with it, he did the wrong. Don't let the mods get in the way and delete everything thats happend you have been a fraud, i hope you get all thats coming to you.
Last edited by Lucky_Phill; 24-05-2009 at 06:23 PM.
Breaming is my LIFE!!!
Photo-shopping issues aside, you must be a hard to please bugger Pin.
You got
2x interesting reads
1x that was ok
1x pass
And it cost you the princely sum of $3.50
I hope you didn't fork over your hard earned to see Baz Lurhman's "Australia".
Cheers
Mike Delisser
Keechie,
The guy who caught the fish is an ausfish member as well, I am sure in due time he will get his side of the story out and it might stay on the boards without being deleted, if you do a search for Brisbane fishing photos you may just come across the unedited shot.
It certainly is a nice cod, I know whose opinion on how to catch them I won't be asking for if/ when I target them.....
Shane
Just a couple of comments-
Using an old photo is fine provided it's in context with the text i.e. used to demonstrate some particular circumstance ("see how this fish took the lure"), about a particular point in time or to demonstrate some other aspect that of fishing not related to a particular trip or time frame.
Photographing a fish more than once in a number of poses and is a good habit to get into, better to put one fish through the extra stress rather than all the fish you catch. Sometimes the extra shock of pulling a fish aboard for the photo can make a difference to its survival, reduce that risk.
As the photographer I'll often hand a fish of mine to someone else for me to photo if I'm after something particular in that shot, head shot, lure positioning etc. The quicker the shot is got the better.
Have one from memory of my shots altered to remove a bit of blood, magazine policy.
My point is that pictures can be used a number of ways to enhance a story or tell one of their own and with live fish as the resource limiting a picture or fish to only one story bounded by a particular time frame can is a bit wasteful, at least as I see it. Just never allow a picture to lie because it's your reputation on the line.
Similar shots, photographer's biggest bane, the shot has to be quick, there's only so many ways you can hold a fish that's acceptable to put into print weather/light is often an issue. The good ones keep trying.
As for the text, its up the the editor to draw the line on that one, if they accept sh1t, sh1t will be submitted
PS Don't see it often see it love love when you see a few shots supposedly of a one day and someones clothes change, or their hair gets longer or shorter
PPS How you caption your photo is the critical part.
Any chance of a link to the photo?
Hope I dont get in trouble for this.... but the truth is out there....
Last edited by Lucky_Phill; 24-05-2009 at 06:25 PM.
Agree totally Pete.....I dont buy any magazines for the same reason.
Everything you could possibly want is on the net.
Magazines have got very dear too....
Pete
Un-believable, I must be very naive. Here I am thinking that if you put up a picture of yourself holding up a fish, with out stating that the fish was caught by others, then the assumption is that it is your fish.
Shane, dont hold back on asking for catch tips mate, you might very well get a photo shopped reply.
Did the original angler give permission for his pic to be photo shopped to infer that someone else had caught the fish?
Are any of my fish pics being waved around with some one elses melon attached, and passed off as their guru catch? Would any one bother I spose!
Would the ausfish members in the pics like to add their input to this extremly informative thread?
It would give you a shock...
You put a picture up somewhere and then it appears in a mag with someone elses head on it.....
Pete
##### ######### used images from this site without permission, and were duely hammered for it, wonder if the same applies??
maybe bnb did it without his knowledge? whos knows. funny but!
OK here's the guff.
Due to the original person in the photo undertaking legal action, he has been advised not to comment here.
I have advised others do to the same thing.
I am in this up to my neck as I am the one who removed the posts proclaiming " Fraud " in regard to webby and BnB. That was a big call and I would have pulled the thread no matter who started it or who was the ' apparent " perpetator. If anyone wants to have shot at me for this, feel free. !! I also initiated pm's and contact with all parties concerned , including Keechie.
FACTS:-
1...Webby did not photoshop the pic.
2...BnB used the pic in good faith.
3...At no time in BnB does it state that the author of the article caught the fish in question.
4...The editor / sub editors of the magazine and all newspapers add the subtitle under pics, not the author.
5...legal action has been instigated.....
6... Ben Collins, editor of BnB will undertake his measures upon his return from Fraser.
7... Webby will issue apologies to certain people and have them published in BnB. This was the indication from Webby less than 24 hours ago. He will do what he sees fit at the right time and place.
8.... Webby will explain ' exactly ' what happened as soon as he is able. Leave it there !
Other facts and My Opinion.
The pic concerned in the mag simply states " What a jew bait can catch ". This is offering information to the reader of the mag. Who cares if the pic is 6 months old or twenty years, in this instance , it is simply demonstrating the effect of a Jew bait. If anyone out there believes that photos in fishing magazines, car magazines, shooters monthly, Ralph, The Courier Mail etc etc are up to the minute, ya simply kidding yerselves. No disrespect intended there towards anyone.
I am a mate of Brians and have had a lengthy chat with him regarding this. That is not why the threads were pulled. The thread starters made a very serious acusation in their title and I pulled them for ' everyones ' benefit, not one or two people and certainly , not because anyone was a mate.
If anyone knows webby, talked to him or read his articles over the last 7 years or so in BnB, you will know he is forthcoming with his info, a very good fisho and a decent bloke. Seems people forget about this and what to jump on the " Tall Poppy " chopper-downer train at the drop of a hat or if someone makes a mistake.
I for one am prepared to give a bloke a fair say. If someone stuffs up and they admit it, I am prepared to give them a second chance... I am after-all an Aussie.
On that note, have a good think about this:-
" Let he who has not sinned, cast the first stone ".
That has no religious intent, simply a creed that sits well with me in this instance.
I will not remove this thread for now, so guys, I ask you to be careful. And NO, I am not the fun police... just letting you know how it is.
Cheers Phill
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