Kevlacat 5.2 vs Bar Crusher 560/620/640 for offshore fishing.

[business class]

[quote=Dean1;1019035]

And Boatboy has already reassured us that a 5.2 KC will do everything better than a 5.2 Hydro will do he's owned both. A 5.2 Hydro hasnt got the safety of twim motors/ fuel systems/ batterys etc does it? And how big is the deck on those hydro's? To much hydro I think

Argh Dean i was wondering when you will comment.

The deck in the 5.6 Hydro which you are referring to is 2.6 meters long and a beam of 2.5m wide (is that a small deck hey ) plus you can run twin engines no problem with twin tanks also, and Dean Twin batteries i think was a typeing error as that comment was stupid as my 12 tinnie could have them. .
Now with this whole triming thing, i honestly haven't driving a 5.2KC so i can't comment but cats are a lot harder to learn how to drive then normall boat correct? EG. mono's, tri's. Yes i understand all boats need triming but none need it as much as a Kevla cat EG. salesman have to take owners out to see and show them what to do before they take delivery. True or false? now they would not do this if there was no concern! Plus what other boat needs to have one engine trim in and one out when turning for more reasons then one . Also in a following sea, the trim in a cat is a must as the sponson can dig in and broach if not drivin right , as i experenced this in a 2400 offshore (novice driver). For the record is was hardly a big breaking wave that hit that boat off fidos either.

If you look at my first post i actually said the 5.2 KC were the choice out of the 3 boats picked, how we got to this was Cat owners beating there chest saying there the best and safest boat bar none, when its a false call so i commented on such a stupid comment , and It always ends up a tri VS Cat debate some how . And Ian yes i do and still will drive my boat through that area with big ground swell as the fish love it, and so will a few of the local boys, just done with timing and care. But yes to your question.

[Noelm]

no, the agent/salesman does not need to take the new owner for a drive to "teach" them how to drive, you can just set and forget if you like, and I can never ever remember altering trim to do a turn, but I guess you could if you wanted to! there is no reason to do anything different in a cat than a mono if you don't want to, but to get the very best out of them, some experience will be of great benefit, but I can assure you, there is heaps of cat "cruisers" out there who simply lower the motor, start up and drive off!

[business class]

no, the agent/salesman does not need to take the new owner for a drive to "teach" them how to drive, you can just set and forget if you like, and I can never ever remember altering trim to do a turn, but I guess you could if you wanted to! there is no reason to do anything different in a cat than a mono if you don't want to, but to get the very best out of them, some experience will be of great benefit, but I can assure you, there is heaps of cat "cruisers" out there who simply lower the motor, start up and drive off!

your still beating around the bush and choosing words to suit your arguement at the end of the day Yes they do need to be shown how to drive the cat, a guy i know just took delivery of a 2400 offshore and as a new owner he said there is a nack in driving them and using the trim is crucial, but he loves the ride but still says you need to learn how to drive them and its not a matter of hitting the throttle and sitting back he said they NEED TO BE DRIVEN, so i guess buy your comments he must be a lie r then hey .

[legsy11]

your still beating around the bush and choosing words to suit your arguement at the end of the day Yes they do need to be shown how to drive the cat, a guy i know just took delivery of a 2400 offshore and as a new owner he said there is a nack in driving them and using the trim is crucial, but he loves the ride but still says you need to learn how to drive them and its not a matter of hitting the throttle and sitting back he said they NEED TO BE DRIVEN, so i guess buy your comments he must be a lie r then hey .

im not saying this guy is a liar but the first cat i drove was a 2300 noosacat and i just clicked her into gear and powered on.i knew nothing bout trim or anyting but i managed to cruise out to cal wide and back to spinnaker no probs at all.before that day the only other boat i had driven was a 4.5 quinnie.i have altered the way i drive since then for the purposes of fuel and ride [ect]but isnt that what you do with anyboat.

[siegfried]

Why waste money on a cat at all, if you can afford to buy and run one with 2 donks and all the $hit just go out and buy a decent boat like a ec233 ,6m haines etc

[stinky-stabi]

Matty

Come on mate, get real! There are plenty of people who drive cats without any experience and how many roll overs are there? Very few is the answer! and if you take Dominators out of the equation there are very very very few! Mate as Noel said all boats need trim to perform well but plenty of cats and mono's are driven without it evey weekend without disaster!

yes cats have lean on turns and if i was a river or esturay fisherman i wouldn't own one , i would be in a plate mono for sure, like wise if i was a dam fisho i would own a Skeeter or similar. But i choose to fish mainly the oceans and want a trailerable boat and there isn't another boat out there that's 5.2m long runs lowish economical HP (120) that has all the features of my cat. These are twin motors with twin fuel and electric systems, self draining , sealed floor in many sections ( 9 in each hull), lock up cabin , well under 2 tonne on the trailer and rides very very well. Can you name a boat of similar size that can match that? Didn't thin

Of coures boats have good and bad points and one boat cannot have everything and be suitable for every application but some have more benifits than others doing certain tasks! You have to weigh up you requirements and pic the right boat for the right purpose, and everyone requirements WILL be differant!

i can a 509 stabi.....

[finding_time]

And how is the lock up cab on a 509 stabi! I've never seen that model

[Smithy]

On all the rollover talk, did anyone hear if a 760 HH Patriot went over in the gutter at Waddy through the week?

[stinky-stabi]

And how is the lock up cab on a 509 stabi! I've never seen that model

give me time an i will make one .lolololololol.
well you only griped on the cabin so ?????
i mustnt be two far off the mark then.pmsl

[finding_time]

give me time an i will make one .lolololololol.
well you only griped on the cabin so ?????
i mustnt be two far off the mark then.pmsl

Well i was going to mention the lack of twin motors and fuel tanks and also the much poorer ride lack of deck space but i couldn't be bothered at the time

[stinky-stabi]

And how is the lock up cab on a 509 stabi! I've never seen that model

just had a look at m8s 5.2 an i wouldnt call that a cabin more like a broom closet

[Noelm]

to answer Smithy, I guess "no"

[GBC]

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/att...2&d=1243078542

Nah, JG was just testing the scuppers out. A cat would have been in REAL trouble.

[Smithy]

Thanks for that. Found the post. Was in Going Fishing if anyone else was wondering.

http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...=1#post1021259

[Dean1]

just had a look at m8s 5.2 an i wouldnt call that a cabin more like a broom closet

One of my 135kg mates doesnt think so. He snores his head off in there in for hrs on end, even when its rough as guts offshore. If you look at the cab closely youll discover a gap down each side( an extra 1m+) which allows your legs too stretch right out. The cab is fine for 2 large adults