New Laws !st March 2009

[chewy01]

Phil, im wondering if they will do something similar to the green zones here,and have ppl handing out pamphlets at the ramp,while taking rego numbers to confir you have received the info..maybe??

[sleepygreg]

Ours (Moreton Bay Boat Club Game/Sportfish Section) arrived by courier from the DPI&F yesterday. I would think that would also apply to any club/organisation that is on their data base. I agree re those that dont have access to the internet...its a common (and erroneous) assumption made by many organisations now, that everyone has access to the internet. My mum struggles to use her mobile phone....and thinks computers are the work of the devil...lol. Yet she is a keen and active fisho.

Greg

[oldboot]

I rang DPI&F today and asked for a couple of coppies ogf the new size and bag limits......I expect it in the post tomorrow.

I rang the EPA earlier this week to order the "moreton bay marine park users guide" they arrived the following day.


I agree that they are a bunch of slackos.....


Note also that the EPA document contains a disclaimer saying the guide is unreliable and if it matters you should consult the act.

This realy pisses me off.
That the state government is not prepared to guarantee the accuracy of the information they print in the only sources that are realy accessable and understandable by the average fisho.

cheers

[Scott nthQld]

The lack of communicating the new laws is a disgrace, we've all established that but I have another question.

Given that the new bag and size limits will be 1 shark with a max size of 1m, what will the game fishing comps in Qld do? Also, if someone is inclined to target a species of shark to beat a record, how will they go about claiming it, given the shark must be kept and weighed in?

I'm guessing the answer is simply "you can't" and "shark tournaments will be tag and release only", as I haven't read into it further because simply, I don't intend to catch sharks, I think they are the scourge of the sea when you are trying to catch fish. I certainly don't want to see them all dead, but I just though of it this morning, what will the Game fishing industry be up for?

The reason I ask is that this year I will be entering the Predators Tournament, and I know that many big sharks are killed an brought to weigh in just for the prize money. I won't be chasing the prize money for sharks though every year it has been a substantial sum.

[Magella]

The Recreational fishing rules and regulations for Queensland A brief guide is in print and out now as I have had two boxes of them avire at the shop on Wednesday

Cheers Foxie

[Grunter71]

Other tidal species

Jewfish
Black (east coast) NEW.......................75 min.............................2
Black (Gulf of Carpentaria).................60 min 120 max....5 with no more than
2 over 100 cm
Scaly jewfish (jewel fish) NEW..............45 min...................No limit



Teraglin NEW....................38 min...............5



phill

Does anybody know what a Scaly Jewfish(Jewel fish) is? The only Jewel fish in my Grant's Guide is a freshwater fish.

I was wondering if they had renamed the Teraglin, but see that they are still at the bottom of the list.

[Lucky_Phill]

Good question Grunter.

I'll look into it.


Thanks....



Phill

[Lucky_Phill]

http://www.fish.gov.au/fishnames/fis...id=2819#family

[Lucky_Phill]

Taxon Report CAAB Taxon Code: 37 354024
Scientific Name and Authority: Nibea squamosa Sasaki, 1992
CAAB category: 37 - Pisces - Fishes
Family: 37 354 Sciaenidae (jewfishes) show full list
Standard Name: Scaly Jewfish
Suggested Indexable Form: not yet designated
Common Names List:
Standard (Commercial) Name(s): Jewfish
Organism Type: a jewfish
Other names used in Australia:
Taxon Notes:
Scientific Name Notes:
Common/Standard Name Notes:
Parent Codes (if any):
37 354000 .. Sciaenidae - undifferentiated .. jewfishes
Child Codes (if any):
Previous Codes (if any):
354024

Taxon status (on CAAB list):
Taxon on current Australian list: Yes
Taxon on commercial species list: No
Taxon on Standard Fish Names List: No

On-line resources for this taxon:

[Lucky_Phill]

CAAB Search Result Current CAAB listing for family (or group) Sciaenidae
Your search returned 22 matches.
Click on any hyperlink to see a taxon report, or on "photo" or "map" buttons, as available.

37 354000 .. Sciaenidae - undifferentiated .. jewfishes (family code)
37 354903 .. Argyrosomus hololepidotus & Protonibea diacanthus .. [a jewfish] (group code)
37 354001 .. Argyrosomus hololepidotus .. Mulloway
37 354020 .. Atractoscion aequidens .. Teraglin
37 354012 .. Atrobucca brevis .. Orange Jewfish
37 354011 .. Atrobucca nibe .. Longmouth Jewfish
37 354008 .. Austronibea oedogenys .. Yellowtail Jewfish
37 354750 .. Chrysochir aureus .. [a jewfish] - (not on AFZ list - imported species or special purpose listing)
37 354009 .. Johnius amblycephalus .. Bearded Jewfish
37 354022 .. Johnius australis .. Little Jewfish
37 354007 .. Johnius borneensis .. River Jewfish
37 354004 .. Johnius laevis .. Smooth Jewfish
37 354021 .. Johnius macropterus .. [a jewfish]
37 354025 .. Johnius novaeguineae .. Paperhead Jewfish
37 354026 .. Larimichthys pamoides .. Southern Yellow Jewfish
37 354751 .. Larimichthys polyactis .. [a jewfish] - (not on AFZ list - imported species or special purpose listing)
37 354027 .. Nibea leptolepis .. Smallscale Jewfish
37 354023 .. Nibea microgenys .. Smallmouth Jewfish
37 354019 .. Nibea soldado .. Silver Jewfish
37 354024 .. Nibea squamosa .. Scaly Jewfish
37 354006 .. Otolithes ruber .. Silver Teraglin
37 354003 .. Protonibea diacanthus .. Black Jewfish

Note: CAAB codes prefixed "99" represent project-specific (informal) taxa.

[Lucky_Phill]

OK, I have done about 20 minutes on this.... no luck for an image.

So I have contacted DPI&F requesting an image or place to find image / description etc.


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[Grunter71]

Thanks Phil, good work.

I have found a photo via Google.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...l%3Den%26lr%3D

Apparently distribution is Far Nthn Australia and New Guinea waters.

[jtpython]

Fairly strange that the wolf herring is now 10 i think they are around this area in plague porpotions at times and a buggar when trolling spoons around and make awesome spanish baits .............. Do you guys south get them like we do up here?

JT

[FNQCairns]

Fairly strange that the wolf herring is now 10 i think they are around this area in plague porpotions at times and a buggar when trolling spoons around and make awesome spanish baits .............. Do you guys south get them like we do up here?

JT

A full 2/3 of the regulations are not about that.

cheers fnq

[oldboot]

Now remember that if you are using a fish for bait.....once it is gone it is gone and you can catch another to replace it..... but don't keep the frame.... that is still a fish in possesion.


Now.... an interesting and obscure clause of the regulations allows you to have one fish "being processed for bait".......this is not counted in the total of everything.

I have to do some more reading on that one..and maybe ask the dpi for clarification...... but that is the way I read it.

Now one of the real pissers... is the bag limit of ONE on shark and rays and an upper limit of 1.5 meters.......nothing spicies specific.....one shark or ray.....and that 1.5 meters includes the tail on a ray.......go figure that one.


cheers