Great Stuff Richard and great photos, I'm keen as to give Hinze a go. Drove down to have a look at the Temporary ramp on the weekend, with all the washouts I don't thing the Calais would get down there or if it did it wouldn't get back up!!! Hitting Lake Intrepid tomorrow hoping for some Trevally, Giant Herring etc, will have to wait till work buy me the new ute before I can get into Hinze again I reckon. Cheers, Jamie.