IBD meets ABT (Teemburra)

[NAGG]

Fair play my new friend... fair play.

Enjoy your day

NAGG.

Well done on the Tour mate... I sat back and watched the results via AusBarra.com. Would of loved to have been there myself but theres always next year. You finished very well in the AOY mate, a credit to your attitude towards your fishing. For a NSW bloke, not bad... not bad at all

Theo

Thanks Theo

Yes .... A pleasing result that was well beyond my wildest expectation.

If you can ..... try to do the tour or at least the Northern rounds - I cant recommend it highly enough. It certainly brings you out of any comfort zones.

You need to see more cockroaches up in qld

Chris

[2manylures]

That sounds like a cop out answer 2 Many
You obviously have something in mind ...... & I'm sure many would like to hear your opinion.

Turtoise & the hare ....... ???

Taylor boys ....... are a class above everyone else ( but dont dismiss that they spend more time on impoundments than 95% of their fellow competitors......which combined with their talent & oneness (being 2 parts of Triplets) ......

Chris

Nagg it wasn't a cop out answer at all. You just didn't read it properly.

[Awoonga]

Now Mr tooo many lures you say you have never fished for Barra.... but you made a commet about how to stop them from jumping ...There are ways.. reduce pressure on the fish for one... but it depends on where the fish is hooked.. if its way down the hatch its a waste of time trying to stop them from jumping

[2manylures]

Now Mr tooo many lures you say you have never fished for Barra.... but you made a commet about how to stop them from jumping ...There are ways.. reduce pressure on the fish for one... but it depends on where the fish is hooked.. if its way down the hatch its a waste of time trying to stop them from jumping

I didn't say anything about jumping.

I did however mention "lighten up" plus "turtle & hare"

Would it not be preferrable to take longer & land a fish than to hook & lose?

What I'm saying works on Cod in the Murray & Southern Impoundments that are notoriously full of timber both horizontal & vertical.

The same works on Trout that will jump over a dozen times trying to free themselves.

[Awoonga]

The short answer is yes... but other factors are at play...like getting bitten off.. bricked, and many others.... most of the fish that Chris lost where on the jump before you can reduce the pressure you have to know where the fish is hooked and if you are in mostly clear water... go for it

[2manylures]

The short answer is yes... but other factors are at play...like getting bitten off.. bricked, and many others.... most of the fish that Chris lost where on the jump before you can reduce the pressure you have to know where the fish is hooked and if you are in mostly clear water... go for it

You don't need very much pressure at all to set sharp hooks. Most hookups on ourselves for whatever the reason we do it have been with very little pressure. We've all done it at some point.

The heaviest line I use in dense timber for Murray Cod is 8kg trolling & casting lures. Lately I've been using 6kg.

I only have around 500grams of drag through the rod if that to set hooks. Once the hooks are set & embedded pressure is/can then be applied. I've found less pressure sets hooks much better.

I have never had a fish pull hooks using light pressure but have when trying to bust there balls, not forgetting the damage a big hard hitting fish can do to a rod with a quick "snap-like strike".

It isn't rocket sceince but it is succesful.

[TinarooTriumph]

You don't need very much pressure at all to set sharp hooks

Im sorry to inform you my friend that Cod and Barramundi are extremely different. Setting hooks into a Barramundi is like trying to hammer a nail into a rock... from an angler I know who fishes for cod, setting any hook into a cod is like throwing a treble at butter. Instead of trying to 'help' experienced Barra fishermen, I suggest you stop while your ahead (sort of). Those blokes your talking to know their shit, mate.

Take it from me.

Theo

[2manylures]

Im sorry to inform you my friend that Cod and Barramundi are extremely different. Setting hooks into a Barramundi is like trying to hammer a nail into a rock... from an angler I know who fishes for cod, setting any hook into a cod is like throwing a treble at butter. Instead of trying to 'help' experienced Barra fishermen, I suggest you stop while your ahead (sort of). Those blokes your talking to know their shit, mate.

Take it from me. & an angler you know

Theo

Yes Theo, you're right. How dare I?

Please have a look at this link and start with 1kg line class.

http://www.gfaa.asn.au/html/1aus_01....gi=1aus_01.htm

How could I have got it so wrong?

[2manylures]

So as not to confuse:
In fish species CLICK BARRAMUNDI.
In State CLICK ALL STATES
In Category CLICK ALL CATEGORIES
In Line Class START by CLICKING 1kg
In Record Category CLICK FRESHWATER.

[nipsta]

its ok theo he quick to have a dig but dont dare dig back it amazed me that a bloke who has never caught one can even say by reading a link that you should then not loose a fish until you have caught one and perfected it too the level of the taylor boys i say you need to be carefully what you say to these blokes that treasure there barra fishing like the rest of us and have definelty had the experince of catching and loose them like trev said there is always a variable that plays part of the game and also i bet the taylor boys have lost there share of fish over time you just dont here about it .

[2manylures]

its ok theo he quick to have a dig but dont dare dig back it amazed me that a bloke who has never caught one can even say by reading a link that you should then not loose a fish until you have caught one and perfected it too the level of the taylor boys i say you need to be carefully what you say to these blokes that treasure there barra fishing like the rest of us and have definelty had the experince of catching and loose them like trev said there is always a variable that plays part of the game and also i bet the taylor boys have lost there share of fish over time you just dont here about it .

I put the link in to highlight the fact that you do not need a great deal of pressure to set a sharp hook.

If you have ever fished with 1kg line you would understand what I mean, obviously you haven't & don't

Criticise me all you like, I've got broad shoulders and don't get offended. At least know what you're talking about.

[nipsta]

I put the link in to highlight the fact that you do not need a great deal of pressure to set a sharp hook.

If you have ever fished with 1kg line you would understand what I mean, obviously you haven't & don't

Criticise me all you like, I've got broad shoulders and don't get offended. At least know what you're talking about.

mate thats funny i caught a few barra have you? so i wonder who has a bit more of and idea on what they fight like. i have also caught cod as well and barra inhale there food and cod bite down on there food so damm there seems to be a bit of a diffence if you ask me and like theo said those blokes know there stuff and have fish for them non stop we all have learnt alot from them so i say they know there stuff and yes i have fished light line and have done ok with it too i dont fish heavy as some for barra but you can set ya hooks all ya like with them but if they take you under a snag a decide they aren't happy with a hook in there mouth setting the hook become irrelevant as when they jump out the hooks can pull as the line locks onto the stick so 1kg line ,20 kg,50 kg it doesn't matter in that type of situation the hooks will pull if hate fish is good enough to pull away
i dont doubt you know what you are talking about but this argument could go on for ever bottom line is its a learn experience every time ya hit the water you never know what there gunner throw at ya . and i never have a criticise anyones idea if they can help me catch a fish im open for suggetstion i think that how you become you improve ya skill so if you have a solution to stoping them throwing hook please give us all that idea you never know when we have something to offer

[Dick Pasfield]

As a nurse you'd make a wonderful ringer 2manylures, such is the sweet charms of your bedside manner:smiley:.

However essentially you are correct by saying less pressure can reduce the amount of pulled hooks on a fish, or more correctly too much pressure will pull hooks more often than not.

The thing with barras when they've been hit a few times too many or just moody and they hit the lure with their head or body and the hook up is external to the mouth. All sorts of issues there with cheek scales deflecting a point or only one point of a treble holding on. Here is where you need to be softly softly. It's a matter of knowing they're in that sort of mood early enought to make the adjustments. Hits and misses, boils behind the lure or when you lose contact with your lure for an instant (fish pushes it forward on the on the front of a pressure wave as it turns) are all good signs the girls are feeling a bit contrary.

Here's a pic of a fish that had too much drag applied, it was told not to play too close to the timber, but didn't listen, hence the come hither tactics, the hook held because of what it was.

[2manylures]

Unfortunately Dick the difference between computers/forums & reality is that we can't see people faces or look into there eyes.

If it were possible perhaps the bedside manner would be taken differently. Unfortunately we can't & aren't all literary scholars.

Trout will do the same as Barra regarding external hooking via face slapping.

I find it rather odd that the percentage of hook ups per fish landed from some anglers here is very low.

This is what sparked my original comment along with another comment of "throwing lures being the norm"

If I put clients onto good trout day after day teaching them a way to fish that sees even 20% of fish throwing lures I would be asking myself some very serious questions. The same with Cod although they don't jump.

I however do not have this problem of fish dislodging hooks.

I'm merely passing onto others what I have experienced & learnt over 4+ decades of angling. You don't need to have caught a particular species to see something isn't quite right, after all there are a lot of species with much harder mouths that take lures & will leap more than Barra. Many of these I have caught.

Some can't see the forrest for the trees & don't want too.

[Barry Ehsman]

how do we get rid of this ######