gone

[Mindi]

No thanks Jim....a small war wont do at all...easy to start but a real bugger to get out of it seems..?. Consumer confidence is what must be restored and confidence in the financial systems and and control of the vultures who circle in them...when people see governments tightening regulations on targetted financial systems and processes (ie...ban shorting on financial stocks etc..) then hopefully we will have a demand led recovery. Dont get hyped...this is not 1929/30..that's crap..there is not comparable mass unemployment but there is much pain for some unfortunate people. With unemployment levels around 5% we must hope most displaced workers will find something else.
I guess it keeps coming up here because boating is such a discretionary spend...and the industry has a significant excess of product choice and low margins..see car industry also. You dont see a 6 billion plan from Govt to support the boating industry over ten years...but you wouldnt..the employment levels are much too small. Better days ahead, and the well managed longer term businesses will hopefully pull through a bit scarred but OK.

[Noelm]

hhmm a "small" war, does that mean we only kill a few thousand people? or maybe just invade a "small" Country and massacre all the inhabitants? or perhaps we just bomb the sh!t out of somewhere for a "small" amount of time, yep, I can see how a war can fix everything!

[Noelm]

something that sort of has had my feeble mind puzzled, if almost every Country in the World is meeting and having "talks" on the financial crisis, then why don't we/they just do what we were doing before the crisis? like during the "boom" times (nothing to do with a war BOOM) it is not just us or the US of A it is almost the entire World that is in strife!

[Pobblebonk]

So... um... where are the fish biting again?

[finding_time]

Uhm, i dont think the worlds going to stop??? because if it is lucky i got a new reel sort of get the impression people are talking themselves into it..

Fully agree! I think if your a salary/ wage earner for government/ or a good business that will ride this out , this economic downturn/ recession is the best this that can happen to you , to start with by christmas you'll be paying alot less for your home loan, fuel is dropping in price and if you invest the saving of your home loan into the sharemarket atm you can buy at 2004 prices! If you playied it right you'll come out miles in front!

Who this whole thing does hurt is small business in the non essential ares and there staff , self funded retires,and it also hurts people that were planning to retire in the next few years as they'll have to delay those plans. Someones doom is always someone elses boom!

[lippa]

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Originally Posted by lippa
a few hundred lousy?
i kinda lucky myself, i'm in a good postition, but i have some great friends that work hard, and havent made silly finacial decions. $20 is a massive amount of money to them.
if somthing you can be sourced from OS, or a website for a less, why not buy it?
the bloke down the marine shop/ bottle shop/ auto parts store/ whatever, isnt my friend, he doesnt come to my house for a bbq, i dont go to his. why should you be forced to pay considerably extra to support his business?
i know this may sound rough, but the bottom line is your own dollar is the most important.
So because he is not your mate, your prepared to send you money overseas where not even $1 is going to benefit the Australian economy, let alone the economy of the Australian boating sector..

how many people here have payed retail price for a new car?
you would dead set have to be a wood duck to do it.
you shop every dealer to the point there is bugger all margin left in the car, and why shouldn't you as the purchaser, strive for the best price possible?

service is an industry, you pay for it. dont expect the back up, buying the same product cheaper. but its the gamble alot of people will take, its human nature.

no one wants to see any business go down. some deserve it, some are a product of the enviroment there in. its unfortunate, but a fact of life.

lippa

I always negotiate to get the best deal for what ever I buy.. But the seller still make a profit and it is kept in Australia and pays the wages of an Australian.... How is that remotely simiar to sending 100% of your money overseas for the bennfit of another country...



who sends 100% of their money OS? i cerntanly don't.

in my business, i'm in competion with multi franchisee and internationaly owned companys. are you going to tell me that you would pay me, an extra $200 to fix your car, when you will get the same job done, to the same exceptional level, that the big guys do? i doubt it very much.

i support australian busnisses where ever i can, but my family and their needs come first, i'd rather put the extra $$$$ into my sons future schooling than to prop up another business.
am i a bad person for wanting the very best for MY family???


your last comment makes no sense, perhaps you would like to clarify?

[lippa]

I agree whole heartly with jabba how does buying a big seaswirl from the states help aussie business and workers etc. I'am a worker but i also know without small business operators like marine dealers people don't have jobs. And lippa i'am sure if you were in your own business you would see it a different way. It is easy to sit there and say screw everyone till they bleed from the ar$e but if it keeps happening there will be be only a select few dealers left and then you will get the worst thing that can happen they will load up on us so basicly a happy medium is needed. A fair profit for the dealership and a good vaule deal for the customer with good service. I think that it is important we don't carry on like selfish little brats and take the line f#%k everyone else i only care about myself. Because it is just not the business owner that gets hurt it the battler who is cleaning the boats or the young guy trying to get a trade as a outboard mec and they all have car loans house rent etc. Regards Mark

talk about egg on face TCM

what gives you the right to speculate about my particular circumstance on a public forum?????

YOU HAVE COCKED UP BEFORE AND JUST DONE IT AGAIN.

did you not learn anything from you debarcle over the springwood saga?
maybe they should have followed with legal advice, you obviously still need to learn the lesson.

And for your information ( it seems you need to know everything) i own a small company repairing motor cars.
i'm continually manageing profit margins to suit the busniees climate i'm in.
if i dont, i'll go broke too.
i'm continually undercut by competitors, who want my work.
i deal with this on a daily basis, after all my customers want the best prices too.

i put thousands and thousands of dollars into the australian economy, employ australians, and support australian business's, you and ol jabba there should check fact, before mouthing off.

i might just leave this one here, before i get really pissed off.

regards

lippa

[PinHead]

talk about egg on face TCM

what gives you the right to speculate about my particular circumstance on a public forum?????

YOU HAVE COCKED UP BEFORE AND JUST DONE IT AGAIN.

did you not learn anything from you debarcle over the springwood saga?
maybe they should have followed with legal advice, you obviously still need to learn the lesson.

And for your information ( it seems you need to know everything) i own a small company repairing motor cars.
i'm continually manageing profit margins to suit the busniees climate i'm in.
if i dont, i'll go broke too.
i'm continually undercut by competitors, who want my work.
i deal with this on a daily basis, after all my customers want the best prices too.

i put thousands and thousands of dollars into the australian economy, employ australians, and support australian business's, you and ol jabba there should check fact, before mouthing off.

i might just leave this one here, before i get really pissed off.

regards

lippa

go on..do it..launch into a tirade..vent your spleen..get it off your chest..LOL

[BAT]

go on..do it..launch into a tirade..vent your spleen..get it off your chest..LOL

"Dito" go on do it Pinhead can you finally give someone a Thanks or is that ivory tower of your's on pluto?.

Cheer's BAT.

[PinHead]

"Dito" go on do it Pinhead can you finally give someone a Thanks or is that ivory tower of your's on pluto?.

Cheer's BAT.

what are you on about ????

[tae4551]

Sunstate marine in caloundra also went ass up last week. everything has gone already

[jimbo59]

I tell ya what those that can stick it out will reap the rewards when this whole damn thing blows over, just kidding on a little war too

[tin can marlin]

I think that is a issue jimbo if there is no one left it will create a market of high margins etc which is not good for us the paying public a 2 way street is what is needed.

[FNQCairns]

I tell ya what those that can stick it out will reap the rewards when this whole damn thing blows over, just kidding on a little war too

He he, for a moment there I thought you were talking about this thread

[Mindi]

Sunstate marine in caloundra also went ass up last week. everything has gone already

Is that the Suzuki/Bluefin place..?