What happens?

[pommy]

Greetings all!

I have a couple of baitrunners but was just wondering.

Scenario:
Livebait on eggbeater.
Bail-arm back on reel.
Thin elastic band around spool.
Fish takes the live bait and runs.
Elastic band pops off.
Bail arm clicked over manually.

I'm wondering what the result would be? I know that some guys fish livies for Jew with the drag set very slack and jam their finger on the spool to set/strike the hook. They then tighten the drag quickly before the said Jew disappears over the horizon.

What would happen if the Scenario happened? Does anyone fish this way.

The reason I ask is I'm wondering if I can fish a herring on a Diawa Tierra 8-17lb with an Exceller 4000 rather than buying a Baitrunner 3500b.

If your only suggestion is to buy a baitrunner then your wife has a much weaker grasp of financial control than mine.

Regards, Rob.
Ballina.

[-spiro-]

Rob pull the spark plugs out of the car tell here you will take it and get it fixed.
Then go into your takle shop and buy a BAITRUNNER....problem solved...

[pommy]

Sorry mate!, not cunning enough!

Dealing with an individual who has an IQ of 156/Physics and Maths teacher/Knows more about engines and electrics than me!

Also does all the accounts and keeps spreadsheets and bar charts with all incomings and outgoings!

Sooooo! someone tell me what happens!

Regards, rob.

[finga]

You'll either catch a jew or break the bail arm or snap some line.
Which one I don't know.
Any cats around to experiment with?

[pommy]

Thanks for that Finga!

Worked it out already! I don't suppose it works as it isn't talked about or referred to as a recognised fishing technique.

Still.....has anyone tried it?

Regards, rob.

PS Will have a looksee at the boat tomorrow.

[pontificator]

when a fish is running hard, it can be difficult to get the bail arm over and locked, unless the drag setting is light.

I have mucked around with a range of ways of doing it while floatlinging for snapper, but baitrunner feature is most idiot proof when fishing with an open bail. That said, it still needs to be set ;-)

[FNQCairns]

Sorry mate!, not cunning enough!

Dealing with an individual who has an IQ of 156/Physics and Maths teacher/Knows more about engines and electrics than me!

Also does all the accounts and keeps spreadsheets and bar charts with all incomings and outgoings!

Sooooo! someone tell me what happens!

Regards, rob.

Aint that a pickle! Sort of the same predicament here.

I used to do somewhat like what was said above, open bail finger feathering the line release if needed, drag already set, strike holding the line against the rod with one hand or woth a dip of the rod tip flip the bail over to strike.

Baitrunners are OK but not necessary imo, I bought my first one near the end of the 80s never bought another since.

cheers fnq

[finga]

Hey Rob, Try an Alvey instead. Palm the spool to let some line off them KAPOW!!! grab the spool and strike. Jew fighting on the end of Rob's line. Problem solved

FNQ's ideas might work though. Be worth an experiment with that spare neighborhood moggy

[Horse]

I was shown a rig many moons ago when trolling liveys off riggers. The bail was open with the elastic band keeping the line neat and tidy. The pressure was on the rigger clip and when it popped the line just ran off the spool. I never tried it but it should work OK

[Noelm]

Of course it will work, been done heaps of times, but some reels are not as good as others, it has to do with the shape of the bail arm (I think) some work a treat, others will not flick over 100%

[nigelr]

This is the beauty of an overhead reel, IMO.
Leave the livey in freespool with just enough spool tension to prevent an over-run.
Have your drag pre-set, then when the fish runs with the bait, just flick the lever and drop the reel into gear, works great!
As Noel says, some eggys are better than others, a strong bail spring certainly helps. Some reels came with two bailsprings, can't remember which ones tho.
As FNQ says, try dipping the tip of the rod at the same time you trip the bail, it will relieve the line pressure for a sec and allow the bail to fall easier. Bit hard with a freight-train on the end, tho!
Cheers and good luck.

[Blaster Bretty]

Your idea sounds great, why dont you try it yourself, the only problem I can see so far is waiting for the BIG ONE to come and play the game too.
I like to have my drag set quite heavy so as to let a bit of line out if a monster grabs it but still heavy enough to jam that hook in, if you know what I mean without snapping line or breaking the rod or even worse pulling the whole thing out of the holder and into the drink.

Bretty

[Heath]

It's called floatlining !
Tried and true method that we use all the time.
Better results without the elastic band though as it lets the bait woft more natural through the water column.
Trick is to have your drag set right, not too light in other words.

[oldboot]

As finga said...... try an alvey.

You have the spool drag set light so it does not over run.... the main drag disengaged (if you have one) ... and the "T shirt" drag in reserve.

This is one area where the old alvey is ahead and egg beaters still strugle to keep up.........fishing light and allowing the line to run.........the other thing with the alvey you maintain contact with the line all the time......you feel directly wht is going on on the line, you aren't dependent on low stretch lines or carbon fiber rods for sensitivity.

cheers

[BigE]

Rob
if you are using this methord to target Jew then it will work well. The correct way to do it is set the drag to the fight weight then place the rod in a secure rod holder (hint the best rod holder in the boat is your hands) pull about 4-5 meters of line in and coil on the floor NEATLY so it doesnt tangle and slip a loop of line under the rubber band on your foregrip or near the first runner. Fish takes the bait and has no weight for 4-5 meters then gets pined as he swims off.

Note to live baiters this does NOT work on jacks anyone who gives a good jack 5m head start doesn't usally get to see what hammered him.

BigE