The photo makes it easy to have an opinion on what might of happened. If the vehicle was travelling at speed and the trailer disappeared into a bog it would really matter what was towing it. If you enlarge the second photo you can see sand heaped on the A-frame suggesting it nose dived.
It's a similar effect to hitting an object at speed. Rear vehicle (boat) suddenly stops. Towing vehicle keeps going. The photos don't tell the story. Merely the outcome.
You are entitled to my opinion!
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Bugger! Might not be Nissan's fault but it's not a good advert for the Navara.
ha ha, Nice 1. Na, guys. Its not the towbar or has anything to do with the tray. The chassis is bent from speed humps and too much weight. It would have bent just forward of the rear crossmember. Ive seen it happen to alot of hilux's (not in that way but).
A guy we used to race with named Sven in a grey comp hilux used to bend his chassis all the time. At the end of the day he used to drive off down the road on all kinds of weird angles.
Its not a right off. It can be fixed, but has to be pulled right back down the chassis itself. fun.
Go the cruiser/patrol
I suppose they were driving down the beach at 80km/h whilst towing a pretty heavy boat. Maybe hit whoa boy or a wash out? Pointless speculating about it.
A 4wd is not indestructible, you drive to suit the conditions. Drive it like an idiot and you will break it, seem pretty obvious me.
not good- feel sorry for the owner and crew associated.
As a guess I'd say this occured going thru Indian head track. Anybody who has towed something thru here knows you have no choice(most of the time) to get into it to get thru and if they happen to hit 1 of the dirty big holes going thru - end result me thinks
hopefully it will covered by warranty/insurance if it can be fixed
Michael
Think this one is an outright failure, it's easy to make excuses though, The Telstra patrols esp once fitted with the largemetal boxs on the tray would over time hammer the bump stops until they and some of the ancillary axle mounting pieces ripped too, throughout this the rail would start to twist out at the bottom. It's one of the first places to look when buying one to discount any hard paced abuse of the truck took place over time, the front of the patrols also see the same thing although usually showing as a spreading of the rail still all multi km and hard hits, if it has one it usually will have the other.
Still even the GUs can spread their rails and is a worthy pre-purchase check regardless of how the rest of the car looks.
That nissan failure above is not a hammering point but the most unsupported point in the entire chassis and if it was simply a couple of whoopsy doos then one would expect a true bend this looks alot like a passive work related failure but the final sheer/tear just happened to happen on the sand due to the extra work it entails on the car, just lucky it didn't fail on the highway, there was every chance it would have of it sooner or later if the beach was not driven.
The only thing holding the rear of that truck up is the tandem trailer
My 2c anyway, that pic is just plain wrong!
cheers fnq
Ive seen a few patrols with cracked chassi rails (front). The sure sign of it is just before full lock with your steering (either way) there is a clunking sound. Took ages to find that out but.
BD
They are not hard to fix if you get the right person to do it. If done properly it will end up stronger than the factory job. Not sure what is like nowadays but once upon a time the worst thing about doing something like that on fraser was the cost of the tow from the rogue that operated there.
You are entitled to my opinion!
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I saw a Navara up on Silver Plains Station last year which was busted just like that. they had it loaded with fuel drums in support of a bunch of ultralights which were heading up to the tip. Wish I'd gotten a photo.
Rainbow to brisbane $350Originally Posted by snatch
unless your with racq.
Ive seen them fix them before, They have a jig set up with lasers and punch in what model and make the 4x4 is. They just keep bending until all the laser points line up. Then reinforce it somehow. BUT - They have to strip it right back to bare chassi. Imagine the amount of work that would take!!! And the guy told me that "after they put it all back together it can be out as much as 20mm (even from factory).
Atleast cruisers and patrols only crack and not bend.
At least Land Rovers dont bend or crack...
I saw a Energex GQ patrol come out of our paddock one day the guy said it was driving funny. When we had a look at it all of his ladders were bent, his chassis had snapped and the ladders were the only thing holding it all together
Couldnt help yourself eh oz!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good one,,
Check out the rear tyres on the nav... Must have had a bit in the rear of tray PLUS the trailer probably full of camping gear and fuel....
Jim
I saw Predator just south of Indian on Saturday morning the 4th they were going North - it looked straight them.
Here is a cruiser conversion which had just been pulled through Indian a year ago.. It had a huge off-road trailer hooked up behind it...
Years ago I was unfortnate enough to purchase a new near Navara 4WD which turned out to have been previously involved in what must of been a fairly serious accident. After much heated discussion, I managed to get them to replace the chassis with a new item.Rainbow to brisbane $350
Ive seen them fix them before, They have a jig set up with lasers and punch in what model and make the 4x4 is. They just keep bending until all the laser points line up. Then reinforce it somehow. BUT - They have to strip it right back to bare chassi. Imagine the amount of work that would take!!! And the guy told me that "after they put it all back together it can be out as much as 20mm (even from factory).
Atleast cruisers and patrols only crack and not bend.
Unfortnately a new chassis turned out to be unobtainable and I had to settle for another second hand one which I was told had only sustained "minor damage". I didn't like the sound of it but had little choice at the time.
Well, as stated above the truck had to be stripped bare and rebuilt on the "new" chassis. A mammoth job........and very poorly done in this case. Things just never go back together like they do at the factory. Nearly six weeks later I got my truck back. It went back to the shop 3 times to get stuff fixed. To top it off the "new" chassis was also bent.
After getting that chassis pulled somewhat straight, I decided to trade the truck in and cut my losses. I had had enough of it.
I now get a panel beater to look over any 2nd hand vehicle I'm looking at purchasing as well as getting the usual mechanical report. An experienced panel beater can usually tell you in a matter of minutes if the vehicle has any major sort of bodywork done to it in a past life.
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