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    Caloundra Military Jetty

    Fishing for me has been so pathetic lately. I know that I am no Rex Hunt but by god it has been frustrating. I have tried everything to no avail. Just can't seem to do any good. Ever since the beach has been creeping wider and wider at Happy Valley and there are no decent gutters I have been loosing weight! Even the rocks at the top of Happy Valley have been disasterous.

    Anyway, yesterday we family visit from Interstate. I decided the two boys (7 and 12), my nephew 11 and my youngest daughter 11 should come with me and I would do my best to see them catch a fish or two.

    We headed to the rocks at the Valley at 5.00. At 5.30pm I thought I was snagged. Not wanting to lose my gear I carefully tred to desnag with a bit of pressure and the odd flick or walk along the rocks. The oldest of the boys line was also tangled with mine making the job all that much harder. All of a sudden there was movement at the station. I started winding, then snagged again. This time I could feel a slight rubbing, back and forwards. "This is no snag!" Slowly I made headway but the rock ledge was making it difficult. Lo and behold I clear the rockwall and this giant, blotchy looking flathead surfaced and lay horizontal on the rock ledge. Very offended it gave three or four great shaked of its head, chewed off the line and was gone in the first wave.If it wasn't a metre long I will stand r*&^ted! What was the bait you ask? A strip of mackeral sourced from Woolworths. I was devestated because this was by far the biggest fish, let alone a flathead I had hooked. So all you budding fisho's get down to the rocks at Happy Valley. Don't fish the absolute point where everyone usually flocks to. Do what i did, move further North, only about 30 metres and catch that SUCKER and his mate! I know that I lost it due to my inexperience but I did learn a lot from this one!

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    Unlucky mate! My father was just at Esperance (WA) last week and same thing happened to him! He said it would have gone 80cm easy! I didn't think sand flathead could get that big?

    Cheers, Mick.

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    Sand flathead don't get that big but dusky flathead do..........

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    Bad luck, probably not much you could have done different anyway. If there is light line in the flatheads jaw, chances are you will lose it. Try keeping the rod tip low to the water and leading the fish gently to the sand. As long as you have some tension in the line, the hooks shouldn't fall out, and let it run if it wants to.

    Next time you rig up, use about 60-80 cm of 16-20lb line as a trace ie hook at one end and swivel at the other and tie the swivel to the main line with your sinker running on the main line.

    Better luck next time.

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    sounds like fun, keep up the good work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter4 View Post
    Sand flathead don't get that big but dusky flathead do..........
    managed to pull in an 85cm sandy trolling a rapala deep diver into mooloolaba river mouth.

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    Unlikely Mangfish as sand flathead rarely exceed 45cm (Grants Guide to Fishes).

    It was probably a dusky with a lighter colouring........

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    this is pic from a post long ago - and is (unfortunately) not mine - it was a post from MrBig. Definitely sandy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DICER View Post
    this is pic from a post long ago - and is (unfortunately) not mine - it was a post from MrBig. Definitely sandy...
    no way you could tell without a close up of the tail

    Jeremy
    "The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
    (Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)

    Apathy is the enemy

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    Well I've never seen a sand flathead bigger than about 40cm. The only flathead species known to grow over 80cm is the dusky.....that's what I'm guessing the guy is holding in the pic, regardless of the colour.......

    Below is what the DPI say:

    Sand Flathead

    Description

    The sand flathead is a small species, generally not exceeding 45cm (less than one kilogram). At sexual maturity they are 26-27cm in length. This species is sandy brown on top, and is profusely speckled with creamy-white spots that combine to give an effect of light-and-dark blotching. Sand flathead also have distinctive tails which are white with oblique black bars. The lowest two bars are generally thicker and darker than the others. These fish are solitary animals but sometimes form loose aggregations. They feed on small fish such as whiting and mullet, crabs, prawns and other small crustaceans, squid and octopus.

    Habitat/distribution

    The sand flathead is a marine, bottom-dwelling fish, and can be found on soft substrates. It is a tropical and warm temperate species ranging the entire Queensland coastline on open ocean beaches, into northern New South Wales and also the Gulf of Carpentaria. Occasionally individuals are caught in the more saline estuaries. Sand flathead are also present in Tasmania, South Australia and Western Australia. Although generally solitary, younger sand flathead school, making them an easy target for fishers.


    Further information

    Department of Primary Industries. (2002). Fish Guide. Saltwater, Freshwater and Noxious Species. The Great Outdoors Publications, Brisbane.
    Grant, E.M. (2002). Grant's Guide To Fishes. E.M. Grant Pty Limited, Brisbane.

    Dusky Flathead

    Description

    Dusky flathead are distinguished by a black spot on their tails, partially bordered with white. Fish caught in sandy areas are clean brown in colour, whereas those caught in the vicinity of weed-beds are green, mottled with brown. Dusky flathead are large fish, growing to 15kg (120cm). At sexual maturity they average around 63cm in length. They grow to larger sizes in warm water than in cool water. They are active foragers and ambush predators, and occasionally become scavengers. Their prey includes fish, prawns, crabs, other small crustaceans, squid, octopus and polychaete worms.

    Habitat/distribution

    The Dusky flathead is a marine species, and is commonly found inshore in coastal bays and estuaries to depths of at least 30m. The name mud flathead is a misnomer, as these fish are found over clean sandy regions as well as over silty bottoms between weed-beds. They range along the southern and central Queensland coast to north Queensland. This species is an efficient burrower, lying beneath sand and silt with only the upper part of the flattened head and eyes, and the mouth visible. From this position they await the approach of smaller prey-fish.


    Suggested further reading

    Department of Primary Industries. (2002). Fish Guide. Saltwater, Freshwater and Noxious Species. The Great Outdoors Publications, Brisbane.
    Grant, E.M. (2002). Grant's Guide To Fishes. E.M. Grant Pty Limited, Brisbane.

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    Re: Caloundra Military Jetty

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter4 View Post
    Well I've never seen a sand flathead bigger than about 40cm. The only flathead species known to grow over 80cm is the dusky.....that's what I'm guessing the guy is holding in the pic, regardless of the colour.......

    Below is what the DPI say:

    Sand Flathead

    Description

    The sand flathead is a small species, generally not exceeding 45cm (less than one kilogram). At sexual maturity they are 26-27cm in length. This species is sandy brown on top, and is profusely speckled with creamy-white spots that combine to give an effect of light-and-dark blotching. Sand flathead also have distinctive tails which are white with oblique black bars. The lowest two bars are generally thicker and darker than the others. These fish are solitary animals but sometimes form loose aggregations. They feed on small fish such as whiting and mullet, crabs, prawns and other small crustaceans, squid and octopus.

    Habitat/distribution

    The sand flathead is a marine, bottom-dwelling fish, and can be found on soft substrates. It is a tropical and warm temperate species ranging the entire Queensland coastline on open ocean beaches, into northern New South Wales and also the Gulf of Carpentaria. Occasionally individuals are caught in the more saline estuaries. Sand flathead are also present in Tasmania, South Australia and Western Australia. Although generally solitary, younger sand flathead school, making them an easy target for fishers.


    Further information

    Department of Primary Industries. (2002). Fish Guide. Saltwater, Freshwater and Noxious Species. The Great Outdoors Publications, Brisbane.
    Grant, E.M. (2002). Grant's Guide To Fishes. E.M. Grant Pty Limited, Brisbane.

    Dusky Flathead

    Description

    Dusky flathead are distinguished by a black spot on their tails, partially bordered with white. Fish caught in sandy areas are clean brown in colour, whereas those caught in the vicinity of weed-beds are green, mottled with brown. Dusky flathead are large fish, growing to 15kg (120cm). At sexual maturity they average around 63cm in length. They grow to larger sizes in warm water than in cool water. They are active foragers and ambush predators, and occasionally become scavengers. Their prey includes fish, prawns, crabs, other small crustaceans, squid, octopus and polychaete worms.

    Habitat/distribution

    The Dusky flathead is a marine species, and is commonly found inshore in coastal bays and estuaries to depths of at least 30m. The name mud flathead is a misnomer, as these fish are found over clean sandy regions as well as over silty bottoms between weed-beds. They range along the southern and central Queensland coast to north Queensland. This species is an efficient burrower, lying beneath sand and silt with only the upper part of the flattened head and eyes, and the mouth visible. From this position they await the approach of smaller prey-fish.


    Suggested further reading

    Department of Primary Industries. (2002). Fish Guide. Saltwater, Freshwater and Noxious Species. The Great Outdoors Publications, Brisbane.
    Grant, E.M. (2002). Grant's Guide To Fishes. E.M. Grant Pty Limited, Brisbane.

    Thanks Peter for that info, My father caught it in Esperance, Western Australia. Thats why I didnt think it could have been a dusky? I know that duskys are the biggest but what would come 2nd? and do they get up to 80cm?

    Cheers, Mick.

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    No worries Mick.

    Bar-tailed flathead are the second biggest getting up to 80cm - maybe it was one of them?

    Pete

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    This fits
    Dusky flathead are distinguished by a black spot on their tails, partially bordered with white. Fish caught in sandy areas are clean brown in colour, whereas those caught in the vicinity of weed-beds are green, mottled with brown. Dusky flathead are large fish, growing to 15kg (120cm).
    There is a weed bed about 40 metres out

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    bummer hay scotth. at least ya no now if it happens again. it sucks to lurn the hard way, i feel ya pain mate. i hope ya get a 110cm to make it all better. i hope i get a 110cm one day hehe.
    figjam :wink:

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    Re: Caloundra Military Jetty

    Mate keep trying. The fish are there but there is also alot of water with them!! I think the fishing overall has been pretty quite. Try to target fish that are in season like whiting, flathead and dart. Use the freshest bait you can. We are all in the same boat. I fished 2 days straight and didn't even get a keeper. Cheers

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