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Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?
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    Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Hi

    I was recently emailed a photo of a large cod (48kg) caught by a friend of a friend. I know the fish was kept however I am not passing judgement as I don't know what condition it was in, what depth of water it was caught in or whether any attempt was made to release it.

    I remember seeing on TV on one of the fishing shows that large cod like this act lke protectors of their patch of reef and if removed the other fish move on. As anyone else heard this or can confirm
    Thanks

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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Mate
    it is right
    they keep the system together Cod don't always stay in the one place but there is always a population on all the healthy reefs until they are fished outI have seen it plenty of times and once fools remove all the big fish it takes a while before another big fish moves in and sets up a new neighbourhood.
    Why not take a few smaller cod and leave the big fish to continue the species

    SL
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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    I've read ,lately, about quite a few monster cods that have been found dead in FNQ...

    Nobody seems to have an answer for their mysterious deaths....it's a shame as they are such a magnificent creature....

    I release any that are caught on my boat (from me or deckies) purely because of having been a keen diver in the past I've developed a bit of a love for them. ...

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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Zero View Post
    Hi

    I was recently emailed a photo of a large cod (48kg) caught by a friend of a friend. I know the fish was kept however I am not passing judgement as I don't know what condition it was in, what depth of water it was caught in or whether any attempt was made to release it.

    I remember seeing on TV on one of the fishing shows that large cod like this act lke protectors of their patch of reef and if removed the other fish move on. As anyone else heard this or can confirm
    Thanks
    They def are the boss on the reef


    Regardless of how it died it would of been well over the max legal keeper size. I have caught one ( on 10 kg mono ) off Noosa, that went 16.8 kgs and was 118cms, so anything over te 17 - 20 kg mark wold be well over legal.

    There are a few massive Grouper that I have seen dead on the riverbank in the last few months. Does anyone know what causes this?


    Cheers,

    Nick S

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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    blue grouper?

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    Scott, The QLD groper that have been dying from Cairns north are dying of some sort of blood poisoning to which AIMS has been unable to find a cause as yet.

    First thought (as always) was runoff from the cane and then fishing (somehow fishing can cause blood poisoning in fish....go figure), but when they realised the deaths were all between Cairns and the Daintree, in areas that are not heavily populated and have little to no agriculture, they changed their tune. Personally I think its simply because of old age, all the fish have been around 120kg, and a sudden death of this number over a vast area, could be attributed to a generation dying, bit of a hash theory but often the simplest answer is correct.

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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Quote Originally Posted by SandStorm View Post
    blue grouper?
    No Mate they are usually big goldspot

    SL
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    Been my experience that when a cod is caught and removed another one takes its place relatively quickly. Some fishermen take advantage of this always briniging a large cod home with them.

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    yeah keepers of the reef is a bit onomatopoeic designed to conjure emotion outside of common sense, little hard for me to swallow.

    Bit like what we know is a fish feeding frenzy (massacre), to many urbanites the fish are 'frolicing together' in the sun at the surface.

    More like the big bully groper has moved out making the immediate territory safer for all tasty fishes, until of coarse a previously bullied groper takes up the territory, then it all starts over again.

    cheers fnq



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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Quote Originally Posted by FNQCairns View Post
    yeah keepers of the reef is a bit onomatopoeic designed to conjure emotion outside of common sense, little hard for me to swallow.

    Bit like what we know is a fish feeding frenzy (massacre), to many urbanites the fish are 'frolicing together' in the sun at the surface.

    More like the big bully groper has moved out making the immediate territory safer for all tasty fishes, until of coarse a previously bullied groper takes up the territory, then it all starts over again.

    cheers fnq
    For those, like me, who are unsure what onomatopoeic means here is the definition from dictionary.com
    1.the formation of a word, as cuckoo or boom, by imitation of a sound made by or associated with its referent. 2.a word so formed. 3.Rhetoric. the use of imitative and naturally suggestive words for rhetorical effect.

    Not sure if it the right word for this scenario (although I am a banker not an english teacher so will stand to be corrected) , but I see what you mean in regard to stirring up emotion with an overly sanitised view of nature. I am sure it is a tough fish eat fish world down there and there is always someone else looking to takeover the mantle when the dominant species/member moves on.

    As I said I heard it on a fishing show and wasn't sure if it had any basis in fact.

    Regards

    Chris

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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Zero View Post
    For those, like me, who are unsure what onomatopoeic means here is the definition from dictionary.com
    1.the formation of a word, as cuckoo or boom, by imitation of a sound made by or associated with its referent. 2.a word so formed. 3.Rhetoric. the use of imitative and naturally suggestive words for rhetorical effect.

    Not sure if it the right word for this scenario (although I am a banker not an english teacher so will stand to be corrected) , but I see what you mean in regard to stirring up emotion with an overly sanitised view of nature. I am sure it is a tough fish eat fish world down there and there is always someone else looking to takeover the mantle when the dominant species/member moves on.

    As I said I heard it on a fishing show and wasn't sure if it had any basis in fact.

    Regards

    Chris
    Hi Chris, you just made me google and yes a little out of context.

    No way was I implying toward any individual, I didn't even notice who wrote it, just that I had read it ..it's all good.

    cheers fnq



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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    talking to a spear fisherman the other day about this & asking him what is like down on our marks, to this he said you will see schools of fingermark between 5-8kg & up to 50-60 fish! than you will go back & see a big cod & not as many fish, until in the end you will go down & the only thing that is there is the big cod, next time nothing there so the cod has had his fill & moved on. he also told me that it may take several weeks before any fish come back to the mark.i have no problems taking a nice size cod (within the law) they are top tucker!

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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronnien View Post
    he said you will see schools of fingermark between 5-8kg & up to 50-60 fish! than you will go back & see a big cod & not as many fish, until in the end you will go down & the only thing that is there is the big cod,

    ron.
    Hi Ron ...can your mate share that mark with me ..sounds real nice to see some 50-60 10-20 pound fingermark and then only a single big cod.....but even so what is you point relating to the large cod...except of course that they are the dominant fish.

    Scott

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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Hi Nick,

    Did you happen to report these to the DPI&F at all? They are always on the lookout for fresh samples if they can get to them quick enough.

    Problem is with most of the ones they have found so far is that the fish are so badly decomposed that the pathology is inconclusive. They also stink to high heaven (i had the displeasure to help cut one of them up )

    If anyone happens to see any more, please report them ASAP to the DPI&F either through the Call Centre 13 25 23 or the Fishwatch Hotline 1800 017 116


    Richard

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    Re: Large Cod - Keepers of the reef?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Zero View Post
    Hi

    I was recently emailed a photo of a large cod (48kg) caught by a friend of a friend. I know the fish was kept however I am not passing judgement as I don't know what condition it was in, what depth of water it was caught in or whether any attempt was made to release it.

    I remember seeing on TV on one of the fishing shows that large cod like this act lke protectors of their patch of reef and if removed the other fish move on. As anyone else heard this or can confirm
    Thanks
    scott,

    if a big cod is removed, the fish wont move on they will stay.
    the big cod are there for a free feed. & it does not take long for another to come along & take its place.as for the mark sorry i wont share, its 1 of my fav marks (plenty of big fingers).so whats the attack for?

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