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    Know the Enemy

    For anyone wanting a good read on how Glowball Warming, anti-fishing and anti-smoking all tie together, this site is a great read:

    http://nzclimatescience.net/index.ph...d=321&Itemid=1


    I particularly urge the Jeremys on this site to take a read.

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    Good read that. I hope it doesn't offend any zealots!

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    What a good read and how easily it can adapted to the zealots who attack our way of life.

    Outstanding.

    KC

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    Thanks for that, it's agood read.

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    Good read. I do take issue with the smoking bit. I know how much my health improved when I stopped. Major League! 15 years now without a gasper. And I don't think being allowed to smoke in public is any more a right than being allowed to be in public without having to breathe in the vile stuff. Smoke all you want, in your house!

    What percentage of arable land is dedicated to tobacco production, I wonder. I doubt it's much but I bet it would help if we changed the crop? Not to sugar cane FFS!

    Spoken like a true ex smoker, huh?

    Tim
    Carbon Really Ain't Pollution.

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    "The demonisation of carbon, the very basis of all life on earth, can only be explained as a religious phenomenon.

    It (global warming) provided a means of attacking industry and capitalism through the one great essential to modern life, energy."

    This sounds terribly familiar (remember "clean coal" and "we call it life"). And to believe it finishes with this:

    "This new Green eco-religion is like a wolf in sheep's clothing and is as dangerous. Unchecked it could result in the downfall of Western civilization as we know it today, or should I say, of yesterday, for already some Governments have implemented very unwise climate change policies derived from unscientific Green beliefs"

    Come on, that is just idiotic.

    If you need help reading between the lines ask any questions you want.

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    excellent stuff..should be a lot more of it...the CC Lemmings obviously will not like it.

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    Don't know if you looked more but this link, off the NZ site is one of the better attempts at explaining the junk science used by the Carbon/Climate change "industry".

    The authors even acknowledge the shortcomings of their own position but any balanced and fair reading of the paper would have to have even the most CC converted asking questions.

    http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc View Post
    Dany balanced and fair reading of the paper would have to have even the most CC converted asking questions.

    Unfortunately you're incorrect. If a committed Greenie sees a good argument, he switches to emotion, brands it a lie, washes his hands (with sorbolene) and runs in the other direction, hands in the air, gibbering (like) an idiot!

    They are not interested in good science. Just drama. And control. And power over us hicks.

    Cheers,

    Tim
    Carbon Really Ain't Pollution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creature100 View Post
    What an absolute pile of shit. If you believe websites like this than you are simply an idiot....sorry but thats all there is to it.
    Calling most of us blokes on this site an idiot in your 3rd post on here is a bit rude methinks.Believing in something based on unproven theorys is more idiotic i must say.
    George
    At Heaven's gate a soldier stood,
    his story ready to tell,
    St Peter said, 'no need my son all is understood,
    Go right in cos you've already served your time in Hell'

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    ok i withdraw the idiots comment but this stuff is garbage.

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    Jeez mate dunno about you but Im not qualifiedd to simply discard this as garbage ,however it must be rememberd that alot of unproven sientific shi&t from dubiously qualified "Kebbin " supporters has been adopted as gospel over the last 12 months, ffs how can you take a bloke seriously that reckons he came from a family of hard workin farmers and had to sleep in the family car when they went broke (insert bullshit yarn icon here) and now wants to tax COW FARTS along with everything else. The chinese etc must be laughing their rings or at us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manchild View Post
    Calling most of us blokes on this site an idiot in your 3rd post on here is a bit rude methinks.Believing in something based on unproven theorys is more idiotic i must say.
    George
    Well don't hold back then, he thinks you're an idiot; why don't you prove him wrong, me wrong, every single credible scientist, and most of the Australian public wrong.

    This is something you ought to know and everyone on this site should know; no scientific theory has ever been proven. They can't be proven. It's as simple as that.

    I should explain, Science, the products of which are infinite, relies on induction not deduction.

    So therefore the theory of Global Warming cannot be proved; but you'd be stupid, irresponsible selfish etc. not to heed the signs that are so obvious wherever you look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atriplex View Post
    Well don't hold back then, he thinks you're an idiot; why don't you prove him wrong, me wrong, every single credible scientist, and most of the Australian public wrong.

    This is something you ought to know and everyone on this site should know; no scientific theory has ever been proven. They can't be proven. It's as simple as that.

    I should explain, Science, the products of which are infinite, relies on induction not deduction.

    So therefore the theory of Global Warming cannot be proved; but you'd be stupid, irresponsible selfish etc. not to heed the signs that are so obvious wherever you look.
    Not interested in fighting and shitestirring for that matter if you know what i mean.By the way is nasa measurements are credible source?Mate im not denying or aggreing on global warming or climate change as its called now ,im just dont believe its manmade full stop.So tryphony or arti whichever you prefer i finished right here with this tread.
    George
    At Heaven's gate a soldier stood,
    his story ready to tell,
    St Peter said, 'no need my son all is understood,
    Go right in cos you've already served your time in Hell'

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    Quote Originally Posted by manchild View Post
    Not interested in fighting and shitestirring for that matter if you know what i mean.By the way is nasa measurements are credible source?Mate im not denying or aggreing on global warming or climate change as its called now ,im just dont believe its manmade full stop.So tryphony or arti whichever you prefer i finished right here with this tread.
    George
    NASA the same organisation that faked the first landing on the moon? Well, I would say they are not to credible considering their recent history, they obviously have a political agenda.

    If it's not man made, then surely that means that the coal companies, the oil, car, and mining companies can continue doing what they want. And we too can continue doing whatever makes us happy, wow, wouldn't that be great. All those big companies can keep destroying our earth because they, obviously, aren't doing anything wrong, after all it would be preposterous to believe that only 6,000,000,000 people can have any influence on our planet.

    Do you get the picture? If you still see a future where we can continue with a total disregard for the system that supports us (earth), than you are severely deluded.

    Logic says; 6,000,000,000 people will have a very strong impact upon the environment.

    If you can't bear the words of science understand the words of logic.

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