Killing a Stingray?

[Scott nthQld]

Funny you mention the getting stung while picking them up behind the eyes snapperbasher, That's how I've been doing it for years, and I've never been stung, just lucky I guess.

I remember about 10 years ago now, me and a few mates used to go down the the local jetty on Lake Illawarra and catch big stingrays, net them, cut off their tail and using the tip of a knife, write our names and date caught on the head by scraping the slime and let them go. Over a couple of months 1 ray was caught 12 times, with each capture haveing the fisho name and date etched in it back. Though I don't do that anymore, I still cut larger ones off cos its just easier to tie another hook on than trying to lift the bastard, but smaller ones are brought into the boat no worries.

Up here the shark fishermen use small whole, live rays no bigger than dinner plate to catch tigers from the beaches.

[snapperbasher]

hey scott,

the ray i picked up was still under water in about a foot of water. i still grab them behind the eyes if there out of the water I dont think they can move as well. I can still see the ray bending its back up and driving the spike in like it was slow motion.

[Reel Nauti]

I have long believed that they can't bend their tale under their body. I'm not %100 sure that this is fact though. But when I catch them I bring them boatside with their back against the boat, then reach over and if possible remove the hook or cut them off. I've never ever had one bend it's tail under. Steve Irwin was incredibly unlucky, and don't forget he was in the water and over the top of the big fella that got him. You won't be doing that Keechie so I'm sure you'll be fine. After removing the flaps etc the body can be very good crab bait at times.

Cheers

Dave

[Mad_fisherman]

yeap i was refering to Rays not fish, also the reason i cut them is knowing people who have been wacked by them maybe i should revisit my thinking on cutting there tails just something i have always done that is all.

cheers.

[KGW3]

Peter4

The reason they cut off the tails and throw them back is due to the fact that a lot of anglers are just feral garbage that will catch, kill and eat anything.. If it was legal, they would most likely eat thier kids...

Unfortunately, the Fisheries Dept is a bit of a toothless tiger atm.. So it will go on until they sort out some sort of fishing control as exists in some other states.

[Mad_fisherman]

Peter4

The reason they cut off the tails and throw them back is due to the fact that a lot of anglers are just feral garbage that will catch, kill and eat anything.. If it was legal, they would most likely eat thier kids...

Unfortunately, the Fisheries Dept is a bit of a toothless tiger atm.. So it will go on until they sort out some sort of fishing control as exists in some other states.

Wow,

We can eat there kids too.

Excellent thanks for that help full post a kid eatting we all shall go......

Cheers,

MAD!

[nigelr]

Keech, if you want to use it for bait, first chop off it's tail and then kill it immediately.
As Lochie says, being stabbed by a ray is not a pleasant experience.
The 'barbs' are so sharp it is almost unbelievable, and apart from being painful, the puncture wound bleeds for a long time!
Definitely worth avoiding! As for a ray on-board, personally, no way!
Cheers.

[cormorant]

Don't forget the Numb and electric rays as well. Know your rays before playing with them. They ain't called numb or electric for no reason!!!

[Cammy]

Pick them up from the eyes, hold the end of the tail, flip it over stab the underbelly, cut flaps off chuck the head away.

Annoys me how i pull up rays with no tails so cruel! I would never do that. If your fishing from a bank or pier, just get the ray flat on its belly get a mate or yourself to hold the tip of the tail with ur foot, put ur fingers in the sockets of the eyes, grab the tail and pick it up. Simple as that, The rays are not out to get you, ur out to get them!

Makes me angry somtimes.

Cammy

[Webby08]

Here are most of the Australian Species

BLACK STINGRAY

BLOTCHED FANTAIL STINGRAY

BLUE SPOTTED FANTAIL STINGRAY

BLUE SPOTTED STING RAY]

COWTAIL STINGRAY

PORCUPINE STINGRAY

SMOOTH STING RAY
This sucker is the big fella

[baitmaster]

personally

a sturdy piece of 4 b 2 in one hand and another piece in the other and club the barstood till the pr!ck dies (OPINION)

[jtpython]

AHHHHHHHH There is nothing more funny then grabbing a large Olive seasnake straight up in the early morning and flashing it straight into the boat giving a couple of my southern mate s a bit of a wake up is enuff to give any larikin a laugh
I use to fish the creeks a bit and catch stingarays and shovelnose sharks and use they for crabpot bait as well as smaller species of sharks but now a days the odd fish frame from trips work a treat
As one of the guys said the spine is fairly well up the tail and dispatching them quick by flipping them over and securng the end of the tail works well
Good luck
JT

[ronnien]

yer they use small rays for shark fishing but do the sharks prefer em live or just using the flaps?

what sort of setup do u need to chase sharks off piers ?

alot stronger one than the 2 old guys were fishing off in jaws!

ron.

[BARRAkid]

don't use stingrays for shark bait there is alot better baits to use
Stringrays should be left along there has been more then enough killed over the steve erwin bullsh!t
I guarentee you will get more hook ups using school mackeral,bonito,mac tuna or even a hering sandwich (a heap of herring on one big hook) you look stupid but it works

cheers BK

[jim_bream]

Also Keechie,
do you have the gear to go play with sharks? You can't just throw some nice leader on your flattie outfit and go shark-huntin.
I'm not trying to knock your afforts, just would n't want to a) see you smoked on light gear b) see you killing off some rays to use on inadequate gear.
Any road, good luck in your adventures.
Jimbo
P.S. See the post in reports for 'Strange Seaway By-catch' it's a nice pic of a Numb Ray