Measuring Fish

[trymyluck]

sorry mate not havin a go but a 5.25kg bream cleaned or about 3kg! i have never seen a 3kg bream in the first place but do you have a pic. were full it woulda gone an easy 3.5kg.
if it was the correct wieght id say about 55cm for a 3kg bream.
as i said not havin a go but if you did get a bream that big its a bloody ripper

Don't know if we took a pic of that one, we quite often got bream around the 4 to 4.5 lb but you had to work hard for them, only ever got them around 3 to 5.30 am and if i remember correctly caught the 2 biggest bream i've ever caught that night on whiting of all things, (got to Foster about 7.30 at night, nothing open, no bait, just happened to have some square hooks with us and the only thing we had in it after a couple of hours were a couple of whiting) one went 4.75 and the other was 5.25lb.I was only about 16 or 17 and back then catch and release wasn't in vogue i guess. These days would probably let em go.
Next time i'm back home i'll see if i can find some photos.
Mark

[leelee]

Nagg personally it depends on the species for me.

All comp fish get measured to the fork and so do most social fish.

I hear what you are saying and its funny to see people say they got a 40cm bream. Most people assume its the fork length of the fish but its not, in reality its nothing more than 35-36cms, which is still a good fish but not a 40cm fork length fish.

Sometimes people do it to make their fish cross the magic length mark for that species so they can hear alot of oooooo's and ahhhhhhh's

Cheers

Lee

[Scott nthQld]

trymyluck, I agree, I have fished Wallis Lake millions of times before, and have caught some stonker bream back in the day, that largest I ever caught was around the 2.5-3kg (5-6lb for those stuck in the imperial system) mark and measured 55cm (tip to tip) and very fat. I kept the fish (was about 10 yr ago now) and cleaned, ready for a pic back at the caravan park. When I set the bream down to continue cleaning the others, there was this great big commotion at the tables by the pelicans, I looked up and the bream was gone, straight down and stuck in the stupid bird throat, but I guess you get that when everyone feeds the pelicans. It was the only time I ever felt heartbroken. Very dissapointed.

[trymyluck]

Scott i'm laughing so bloody hard its hurting, those bloody pelicans havn't gotten any better, we were down there in march for a few days, didn't catch a lot but on the last day we were there we caught a feed of flathead and the missus was cleaning them while i gave the boat a clean out(after 4 days of prawning and fishing it starting to get on the nose a bit )and i handed the missus some rubbish to put in the bin and you guessed it, the 3 biggest flathead were gone.
Mark

[2manylures]

A jumping trout 20ft from a swimming feeding pelican is also a brilliant sight.

They seem to be able to find some speed for a big clumsy looking critter.

[2manylures]

Hi Chris,

not according to the NSW DPI website?;

http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/...d-size/measure

"The overall measurement of a fish, whether it is fork-tailed or round tailed, is taken from the snout on the upper jaw to the end of the tail."

Cheers

Dave

I fished some invitational catch & release {predominantly cod} competitions in the early 90’s.
NSW fisheries were surveying all fish caught & supplied measuring instruments to ensure all anglers were on an even playing field. They even killed a small handful of fish {cod} to determine the age using the lines on the cheek bone in the same manner as trees are aged. Very interesting.
The details & diagrams shown on the devices tend to make me feel that NSW fisheries have changed measuring standards since.
Fork tailed species are shown to be measured to FORK unlike Tip - Tip of today.
Perhaps this may be where some confusion has come from as not all who fish read the updated rule books once released.
Fish do shrink, and if my memory serves me correctly it’s 5% of total length, may be wrong yet pretty certain.

[rob tranter]

Kevie & Outsider ....... Thanks for the clarification ( & I'm surprised as you've mentioned - less margin for error)
I've altered the thread ....... & poll as more of a curiosity

Hell I've thrown back a lot of fish that I've thought was undersize

Cheers

Nagg

Don't you fish in Sydney?

If so you should be up on NSW DPI Rules and Reg's

Aren't you the same NAGGS that has argued the point with certain Tasmanian Members on How They fish to their States Fishing Rules and Regulations, yet you don't know your own States Rules and Reg's

If I am wrong then I do appologise, if I am correct then?

Rob T

[NAGG]

Don't you fish in Sydney?

If so you should be up on NSW DPI Rules and Reg's

Aren't you the same NAGGS that has argued the point with certain Tasmanian Members on How They fish to their States Fishing Rules and Regulations, yet you don't know your own States Rules and Reg's

If I am wrong then I do appologise, if I am correct then?

Rob T

Touche! ...... Rob , Give your self a pat on the back ........ & thank you for pointing out my fallibility to all hereabouts

Do you now feel better or perhaps you would like to look for spelling mistakes & incorrect use of grammar

Now ...... since you raise the point , My practice of measuring to the fork actually guarantees that any fish that I may choose to keep will fall within NSW regulations ............ Which is better than spine & tail manipulation that some practice!
By the way ...... A NSW Fisheries officer at South West Rocks (1996) was measuring our catch ........ & he told us about measuring to the fork ( & I've stuck with that ...... & still do & will continue to do so)

Finally my issues were nothing to do with measuring fish ..... it was about the fishing practices! ( Which by the way is done & dusted) ...... Get over it! I have!

Nagg