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Thread: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

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    Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    With 3 (Dan, Ronni and myself) in the boat we were launched at 4am from the Coastguard ramp and were greeted my magic conditions, a complete glass out, so I shot across the bay but because the moon had set early, there was very little light so I neglected to reach top speed. We rounded Westpoint and pulled up at liver point and found it very difficult to find our spot as the cliff was very hard to see, and with only a small LED headlamp we decided to stick out a bt further to avoid any nasties.

    First bait were down and not much activity, and I was feeling crook. How dodgy is that the skipper getting seasick on a glassy morning. I just put it down the the boat anchored side on to the swell and being dark, I couldn't see what was happening, so a bit of 100% organic burley over the side and I was right.

    As the light increased, we realised that we were way off our may, so moved up and in a bit closer, redployed the bait and things were looking much better, with the first grunter being puyt in the esky for myself (only a small one at 34cm, but grunter are too good for legal throwbacks). This was shortly followed by a couple for, one each from ronnie and Dan. I dropped another boat side, lip hooked and trying to lift the fish in, but oh well shit happens. Te very next bait was smashed and with the fish pulling 4kg drag, I was hoping for a goodun, only to bring up a friggin remora to follow my earlier batfish (I always seem to catch the shit fish of the trip). I pulled in another grunter, and a golden trevally (which gave up a really god fight, making lifting hard by stayng side on in the water), along with 1000 small trevally that seemed to move in which we had to try and get our baits past. There was a few bait schools around so dan started flicking some metals around and then he's hooked up, fights all the way to the boat, when TICK, he's slug hits the rodtip, what going on here, there's still tension, until he realises that his bait has been smashed and his slug has become entwined with his other line! A quick untangling and he's still on! (gotta love those circle hooks), a short batle and he pull up a doogie going 56cm.

    Things slwed so we decided to have a troll and headed a little wider, arcing around to troll in close to the headlands and my rod goes off. Dan passes the rod up and cleas the other lines, but when I turn the fish's head, it swims straight for the boat but the reel has trouble keeping up and unfortunately the trebles come loose, Damn. Another lap of the same path for nothing but a grinner, smaller than the lure, so we head to the spot where, the weekend before, Ronnie and I had jigged up a few doogies and trevally.

    We head there and the sounder is just ablaze with bait, there's got to be something decent in there and while we ae jigging away the surface was alive with big turtles, dugongs, bait flicking, but we couldn't raise anything decent. We got a few small trevally, trumpeter, pike (which was despatched as live bait), and nannygai, all taken on small 20g slugs jigged directly below the boat in only 7m of water. With nothing decent about we move back over to Westpoint to a mark that was in the paper.

    We anchor up ther and the wind starts to pick up and pushes us slightly off the mark, but no matter there was still pleny of action to be had. Dan despatched his live pike, and ronnie and I had to settle for 1/2pilly bait until we jigged up some livies, which were plentiful with the entire screen just one big bal of red bait. AS Dan jigs the bait jig, his pike goes off, only to miss the hook, leaving some good scratches down the pike, its stil kicking, albeit a little stressed, so it goes back out. Next my pilly is smashed, but unfortunatlely I pull the hooks. I wind up the rebait and me, not thinking, grab one of the jigged up greenbacks and stick a 3/0 hook in it back and send it to the briny. Ronnie follows suit. In the meantime, dans pike got smahed again but again dropped it, and upon inpection we could see the missed hooks and the scratches down the opposite end of the pike, so now this one bait had been hit twice, once from the tail and one head shot and both times the hook was missed, talk about bad luck.

    With the pike now well and truly dea, its sent to the buck to strip bait and Dan pins a greenback on and sends it down. No sooner does dan put is rod down and my livey gets absolutely hammered, the fish is well hooked up and running for the opposite end of maggie and ping!, there he goes, bite off, well done you idiot for leaving the 3/0 on, you tool. Ronnie gets a big hit and pulls up his bait to get 1/2 a herring back. I tie on a bigger hook, this time a 7/0 cirle to get into the corner of the mouth pin another grren back on and send it out. I continue to jig up livey's and the green back had moved on to be replaced but small trevally, queenies, scad and yakka's. Things had quietened down and we were strating to get a bit bored, and my livey gets smashed again, I hook in with a solid hook up and then the line goes slack again, what? I wind in the find my leader knot had failed for the first time ever. Man, so thats 3 good fish lost (including the trolled up one from ealier) due to my dodgy practices, I hate it when there's nothing to blame but yourself.

    Things really shut down, us not having any green back left, and not being able to jig up any more, the macks just weren't interested in any other live offereings we had out. Not far of we could see bait getting smashed on the surface, but just out of range of our slugs, and the current was beginnign to slow again, so we called it a day and headed in around 2-2.30.

    Once we'd got the boat up on the trailer and secured, fisheries came over for an inspection. No worries I thought, everythng was taken care of, I hadd all my safety gear, all fish in the esky were legal, so it should've been sweet. As the mackeral gets pulled out of the esky, we were asked what type, doggie was the instant reply from all 3 of us. The officer went back to his car to "check something" and I made a comment to Dan "I bet you this prick is gonna tell us that mackeral is something different". Unfortunately his mate heard after inpsecting another boat, so he decided to stick his nose in as well. He holds up the mackeral and says it a spanish (bullshit mate), he hold the fish on its side and says "do you see those bars in the sun?" yes I could see the bars but you only just see them reflecting in the sun and they were a very, very pale amber colour, and certainly weren't present when the fish was first captured. Anyway, the other bloke comes back from his car with his ID book, and after 15-20 minutes of discussion between them selves, referncing their ID book, they decide it was a spanish. They say to me, showing the pictures of a doggie and a spanish "you see a doggie has the white blotch on its dorsal fin, where a spaniards doesn't". "oh yeah" I say, "then what the hell it this?" and I raise the dorsal and pointing out the white blotch, after anothe 10 mins of discussion time they just flat out denied what was infront of them and made us gut the gut open so they could sink it. They never fined us, which is why I didn't push the issue, and I suspect that If I did argue they would've pricked it out and slapped us with a hefty fine.

    All in all a pretty crap end to an otherwise good day. Just one thing, is how can the DPI employ such numbskulls to ID fish, with an ID book and still get it wrong?
    Next time, I won't be stuffing around, and I'll continue to fight until they get it right. i mean how is a recreational fisher supposed to survive, if a fish can morph into a completely different species when an officer inspects.....tools.

    Any wa on a positive note, here's a couple of pics:
    1. My Golden
    2. Dan's Golden
    3. Dan's Golden (again)
    4. My Bag

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    you's can see why i got scott to write the report from last week, mate u are in the wrong job u should be writing for a fish mag! dan's effort was rewarded with his first ever golden trev & a very nice fish it was, he did not want to eat it so back in the sea it went.

    ron.
    reels screamin aboard Hyper- Active

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    I am gearing up to head out in the next few days weather permiting. So hope there is still some goldens about. Even the bait schools sound good. You fellas certainly earn your fish. Scott the blades of the mincer are missing so no good if i find em will let you know.

    Wade

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    Thanks for the report, Scott.

    Good to see you guys getting into a few. Those golden trevally are supposed to be good chewing, too. So I've heard.

    And well done for keeping a cool head with the fisheries boys.

    Brian.

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    OMFG Scott, dude, you should be writing for a mag or something mate. I'm way to tired to read it all, especially when when I seen how many words there are..I read kids books not novels. Pics and I caught this and they caught that will do...hahahahaha

    Good one mate, glad ya got a feed

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    Well after that saga, I forgot to mention Dan's first ever Golden. It too was taken at the last spot of the day on a live greenback and it gave him a bit of curry, taking some good runs and trying to make its way around the boat , finally coming to rest in the landing net, I'd estimate weight to be around 9kg (I'll have to get a set of bogas). This one was released, as Dan thought he had enough fish with his grunter and doggy.

    According the those numbskull fisheries, Dan also bagged he's first ever spaniard, even though it was a doggy, we'll take the official line on that one.

    Brian, those goldens are really good chewing at the size mine was (about 3kg cleaned), by far the best eating trevally. They get a bit strong in flavour when they start getting up to aroung 7kg for my liking though.

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    Yeah first Golden for me. Pulled well, and took me nearly 360 around the boat. Was caught on 15lb mono on a live fibre rod & a 6500 bait runner.

    As for the Doggie/Spanish/Whateverthehellitwas Mackeral.... They're the governing body, so no real point arguing the fact. We all 3 were sure it was a doggie otherwise we never would have kept it. Either way, doesn't really matter. They decide it goes back, it goes back. Rules are rules, and we all have to abide by them.

    As for the Grunter, he was tasty as hell with steamed vegies today

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    P.S - Corey, read my version of the trip if you like your reports like your men.... (Short & sweet)


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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    It just really burns me that the Authorities that are supposed to be governing the fishing public can't even correcty ID a fish. Doesn't say much for their training program does it?

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    Quote Originally Posted by Scott nthQld View Post

    Once we'd got the boat up on the trailer and secured, fisheries came over for an inspection. No worries I thought, everythng was taken care of, I hadd all my safety gear, all fish in the esky were legal, so it should've been sweet. As the mackeral gets pulled out of the esky, we were asked what type, doggie was the instant reply from all 3 of us. The officer went back to his car to "check something" and I made a comment to Dan "I bet you this prick is gonna tell us that mackeral is something different". Unfortunately his mate heard after inpsecting another boat, so he decided to stick his nose in as well. He holds up the mackeral and says it a spanish (bullshit mate), he hold the fish on its side and says "do you see those bars in the sun?" yes I could see the bars but you only just see them reflecting in the sun and they were a very, very pale amber colour, and certainly weren't present when the fish was first captured. Anyway, the other bloke comes back from his car with his ID book, and after 15-20 minutes of discussion between them selves, referncing their ID book, they decide it was a spanish. They say to me, showing the pictures of a doggie and a spanish "you see a doggie has the white blotch on its dorsal fin, where a spaniards doesn't". "oh yeah" I say, "then what the hell it this?" and I raise the dorsal and pointing out the white blotch, after anothe 10 mins of discussion time they just flat out denied what was infront of them and made us gut the gut open so they could sink it. They never fined us, which is why I didn't push the issue, and I suspect that If I did argue they would've pricked it out and slapped us with a hefty fine.



    I've had a similar experience with the fisheries up a rattlesnake island. A patrol came over and conducted an inspection, I presented safety gear and my only fish, a 60cm doggie. They too, called the faint blotches along its side as bars a nd subsequently called it a spanish mack. They were significantly thicker (the so-called bars not the fishos ), than one would expect the bars on a spanish to be. When I lifted the dorsal fin to reveal the black with white blotch, one officer still called it a spanish, though the other didn't argue the point any longer. with one of the fishos still adament that it was a spanish, the other suggested we throw it back, but only to do it when they were out of sight. This was maybe becaue they didn't want to explain what happened to another officer on the mothership (the one they lauched the smaller boat from) which was 500 - 700m away.

    Its a worry with them some times.

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    Once again great effort mate. Love the pics.

    Rich

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    Corey, I love doing the big speil, feels like I'm re-living the moment and makes each trip seem better.

    The wind has picked up for this weekend which is sort of a shame, I think I might have a break for a couple of weeks, I've got plenty of fish in the freezer now.

    Richie, the more I go out the more I learn, it took me ages to crack Townsville's fishing scene, mainly due to lack of water time, but now it just keeps getting better and better. Darwin seems to be agreeing with you from your reports, and its good to see you producing the goods quite regularly, especially since you've been there a relatively short time.

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    Re: Westpoint Mixed Bag Satuday 14.06.08

    Doesn't that seem like a waste? Throw it back because no one is sure of what it is???
    caught what i thought was a doggie once up a creek in hinchinbrook. Was about 65cm. Thought you beauty. wasn't until heading back in, that what looked like stripes appeared. Didn't know about the white blotch on the dorsal fin. Just was lucky didn't get pulled over by the sounds of it.

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