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  1. #16

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    FNQ,
    Ca'nt agree with you. The "salts" in my cooler were still wet after a week. It started drying out only after I exposed the parts to air. There were deposits which had dried & hardened as well.

    Frank

  2. #17

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    Quote Originally Posted by frank100 View Post
    Guys,
    A DF140, 03 304hrs. Flushed after every use,(muff) run one week ago for ten minutes (as per normal when no fishing !).
    The salt build up was thick & still slightly wet ? .Yes the motor is vertical when not in use.

    jon80 - Unless you have a 4st. Suzy with oil cooler & has no sign of salt, take your comments & s........them .

    This seems to be a bit too common going on the other threads.

    Frank
    Cranky Franky....
    i do own one with alot more hours with
    no problem as yet (have checked before) No need for cranks just asking questions .I guess as there is no corrosion my comments will stay where they are thanks for the advise oldmate

  3. #18

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    Jon80,
    My apologies, I assumed you were commenting without any experience with the motor since you did'nt elaborate.

    So what am I doing wrong ??


    Frank

  4. #19

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    Quote Originally Posted by frank100 View Post
    FNQ,
    Ca'nt agree with you. The "salts" in my cooler were still wet after a week. It started drying out only after I exposed the parts to air. There were deposits which had dried & hardened as well.

    Frank
    Yeah you could be right, would need to see it, easy to tell the difference salt is sodium chloride nothing more than pool salt and must crystallise when dry, it also must dissolve and disperse in an identical sense and speed as does pool salt when exposed to fresh water.

    If it doesn't and must be scaped it's a 'salt' most probably calcuim carbonate which will form only under the influence of heat, same as the on the element of a jug, salt water is composed a few 'salts' but salt sodium chloride will always simply wash away.

    cheers fnq.



  5. #20

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    FNQ,
    Thanks, it looks like a combo of 'salt' & 'salts' (expected I guess). Any ideas on a additive to use to flush the system ?
    Today I flushed the motor several times using a 'flush bag', the theory being that as the water is reculated & increasing in temp. the salt & salts would more readily dissolve & be flushed out. I would like to use something a little more agressive though.

    Frank

  6. #21

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    I once took the thermostat cover off my suzi 70 to find a calcium buildup inside,it definatly was'nt salt in mine as i tasted it,it was quiet thick also 1.5mm roughly.
    I freaked out abit at first thinking it was salt eventhough i flushed the motor regularly.I ended up using a radiator treatment to try and flush it out(bars i think?) it seemed to loosen some but not entirely clean it out.

    The engine never suffered any lack of water pressure or over heating problems due to the build up.

    I was told to use some stuff called CLR clear and flush it with that,some of the guides that used their boats in a freshwater lagoon at home had calcium/limescale build up issues and it worked for them....apparently.

    Just a thought,
    Dan.

  7. #22

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    Dan5,
    Thanks !
    I'll keep that in mind.

    Frank

  8. #23

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    Very usefull thread indeed i will be sure to have mine checked every yearly service , would it be worth having it removed cleaned and a new o ring fitted yearly to avoid the problem ?

    I think thats what i will be asking my mechanic to do .

    Very happy with my motor and if this is the only problem it has then its all good

  9. #24

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    Guys,
    After some more examination of the cooler and the arangement of it on the motor, I am coming to the conclusion that jon80 is correct. There seems no way that the 'O' rings on the oil cooler can let the oil leak internally. The 'O' rings are a seal between the cooling system (water) & the outside world. Loss of oil is possible from around the oil cooler 'gasket' (if it fails) which is between the oil cooler and the engine's oil system, any leak of oil would be to the outside world thru the gaps in the side cowling.Which begs the question "where did the oil go in those cases mentioned ???

    BTW I am considering use Bicarb Soda added to a flush bag to give my motor a really good flush. Any comments on the merits or otherwise would be most welcome.

    Frank

  10. #25

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    Frank what about MACS or similar, you could add that to your flush bag for a good clean.

  11. #26

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    Paul251,
    Looked at Macs, seems a bit pricey ($40 for a couple of ltrs & $40 for the plastic injector ! ). Straight into the flush bag maybe OK but was told by a guy that Bicarb would do a good job. Just wondering if anyone had already been there done that.
    Thank anyway.

    Frank

  12. #27

    Re: Suzuki / Johnson 140 owners

    thanks honda mine was leaking oil and i have done repair/service with info from your source, replaced rubber rings good now no leaks

    ped

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