cars parking in boat spots

[reel scream]

gotto feel sorry for people in those situations ......... but it is just like parking in a disabled spot if no other parks are available ( not quite ... but you know what I mean )

Nagg

Sorry NAGG, but there really is NO reason for parking in a disabled persons spot. It's not on. These people need them to to get their loved ones to the shop/bank/appointment- hard enough for most of them.
Not saying you do it though.

Dan- sounds like it will get worst though mate. That ramp(whole marina area) is privately owned and ? some stage soon will be duplexes like on the south side.

You guys will have to leave the mainland and launch over at Bribie.

VMR Bribie offers a lock up area for an extra one off $7 on top of the $44 a year fee for 5hrs free towing.($88 the first year)

Cheers Scott

[reel scream]

Got me thinking- maybe a small fee to get on the island should be on the cards. The bridge is getting as bad as the Hornibrook.

Hmm. $5 to come over , stamp your passport and a small donation of1/4 of the catch to the local nursing homes .

Cheers Scott

[Xahn1960]

It is simply inconsiderate.... no other way to put it. Maybe people who do it should try to seek out a park twice the length of their car and feel the frustration for themselves..

Bill.

[TimiBoy]

If you have no boat, you can't park in the trailer spaces. It is the height of bad manners. If you can't find a park, go do something else. Seriosly, there must be a park somewhere - if you're a deckie, drop your gear off, and go park a K away - the exercise is always good.

I sympathise with the kayakers/divers/wind surfers. They muddy up the debate and make a solution difficult. Not sure what to do with them. Maybe have them all shot?

I like the Raby Bay setup. There is ample parking, and obviously that's the best solution. Unfortunately with the price of Real Estate in some places, it's just not that easy.

And for those who think, "I'm alright Jack, stuff you", well, what goes around comes around. Hope they have a tyre pump in the car if I can't use a ramp.

[Poodroo]

Well I personally think they should not be allowed to park in a trailer park and if they do and the trailer park runs out of spaces then we should have the right to park them in and their car can just stay where it is until we return back from our fishing trip. Perhaps all trailer parks should include designated single car park spaces for Kayak, car toppers, and even handicapped parks for those with disabilities who are going out as deckies? Perhaps a letter to the local MP is in order?

Poodroo

[Keechie]

i understand as i own a boat and my dad and i have had to walk quite a distance to get to the ramp, but whenever i can i launch from a ramp where there is lots of car parks like cabbage tree creek, there is plenty of parking and fish cleaning benchs, toilets, etc. i was meaning by responsibly that they would park at the furthest park from the ramp even if there was a park right up the front.

regards,
keechie

[NAGG]

Sorry NAGG, but there really is NO reason for parking in a disabled persons spot. It's not on. These people need them to to get their loved ones to the shop/bank/appointment- hard enough for most of them.
Not saying you do it though.

Dan- sounds like it will get worst though mate. That ramp(whole marina area) is privately owned and ? some stage soon will be duplexes like on the south side.

You guys will have to leave the mainland and launch over at Bribie.

VMR Bribie offers a lock up area for an extra one off $7 on top of the $44 a year fee for 5hrs free towing.($88 the first year)

Cheers Scott

Scott ..... I think you read me wrong
I just used the disabled parking as a comparison ( wrong to park in either - unless you are allowed )
I added the "not quite" ........ because it is worst parking in a disabled spot

I hope that clears that up !

Nagg

[DR]

if you don't have a trailer you have no right to be in a trailer designated parking spot at a boat ramp, end of story..
if you have old or unwell people that need to be there, drop them in front of where you need to be & go & park your car somewhere else, pick up the same.
Canoes, windsurfers etc can be launched anywhere, they don't need to be at the boat ramps.

[theclick]

Canoes, windsurfers etc can be launched anywhere, they don't need to be at the boat ramps.

Bollocks. At certain areas with beaches yes, at areas with rock walls (like most of the bay side), then no, we cannot "launch it anywhere". Just like boats, these things are in danger from rocks, oysters, barnacles ect so no you cannot launch anywhere.

In addition to that, the very reason we cant launch in most seaside areas is because they have been altered from their natural state to accommodate boaties. So dont get all up in arms when we need to use a ramp.

[DR]

Bollocks. At certain areas with beaches yes, at areas with rock walls (like most of the bay side), then no, we cannot "launch it anywhere". Just like boats, these things are in danger from rocks, oysters, barnacles ect so no you cannot launch anywhere.

In addition to that, the very reason we cant launch in most seaside areas is because they have been altered from their natural state to accommodate boaties. So dont get all up in arms when we need to use a ramp.

maybe there should be some kind of registration fees on canoes, windsurfers etc & then they can have the same rights at boat ramps as those that do have registration..get a sticker on their vehicle that states they have paid & are contributing to the (minimal) upkeep of boat ramps.. & can use the designated parking bays.

[TimiBoy]

Sounds like the register/don't register debate on bicycles (I think they should be). Maybe it's not a bad idea to have a dated sticker on your car, purchased for whatever price is right, to show why you're parked there. seems a sensible option, and should alleviate the headache a bit.

[Mr__Bean]

So dont get all up in arms when we need to use a ramp.

Agree......

But it still doesn't give the right to park in the larger parking spots that are provided for cars with trailers attached.

- Darren

[SeaHunt]

Whatever the signs say, if there is no signs, help yourself.
If there is a sign there that says cars with boat trailers only, then that is what it should be, all others should be fined regularly, repeat offenders towed.

At Nudgee they all park in the rigging area and have a picnic, you have to double park to setup, I love saying "you shouldn't be parked there anyway mate", when they try to get out and you have parked them in, needless to say I don't hurry.

[jacobvz]

how about taking your trailer off your car and putting it in a car space? is this acceptable behaviour?

I sometimes launch at a ramp that has a lot of parking spaces for the people that picknick there and though I have never really paid attention to it to see if there is signs stating it is not allowed (although on what grounds that would be a legal being that I have paid me rego on the trailer?) and never had too, I would park my trailer in a car spot and put my car next to it if that means not having to walk the steep hill leading to the ramp.
True, it requires a wheel clamp and hitch clamp to make sure it is still there upon arrival.

Mostly I launch from the boat club I joined for a very little fee a year and enjoy a nice 4 lane ramp with enough parking.

Jack

[theclick]

I'd be happy to pay a kayak rego fee that is appropriate to the strain we put on public infrastructure. Mind you, it woud be a hell of alot less.

And then with this figure, you can offset the greenhouse gas savings me make, pay half the price because the carparks only need to be half as big, think about the reduced impact we have on the environment such as turtles and so forth.

Then you would be looking at a fee which would be appropriate.

I'm making no excuses for the fact i parked in the wrong spot, so be it, i did something wrong, i cop a fine. I'm getting more shitty at the crew who think that because they own a boat, they own the ramp. I think you'll find a majority of the funding for these ramps comes from out local councils, and the department of Main Roads and everyone's taxes, not just ya boat rego's.

Oh, and with my "rego fee" i'd expect some kayak specific infrastructure too.

One of the major underlying issues here is a planning issue on the carpark scale. Car park allotments should be specific to the demand. There should not be a million empty boat parking areas with not a normal parking zone within 500m for those who need proximity to a launching spot.

Whats with the agro that some people have these days? In reality, everyone is out to have a good day, and yes, people make mistakes by being to slow at the ramp. So if they are having trouble, instead of yelling at them and getting all upset, go over and ask if they need a hand so everyone can get going quicker.

This stuff isnt your, theirs or anyone elses because they have paid a rego, it's the publics, and that share of use should be recognised, and respected.