Evenrude E-TECH or 4stroke

[Seahorse]

Here we have a guy, stating, new to boating, and i think has asked a serious question.
There is no such thing as a stupid question only stupid answers.
Whether some people think as old hat or boring ,should just keep their mouth closed and give the bloke a fair go and provide him with the info he has asked for.
I see he has only joined in april 2008.
Mate i wish i could help but dont have the knowledge, but iam sure that some people will give u the right advice.
I got 2 stroke merc and have been very happy with it.
i got 75hp and has 140hrs on the clock.
I feel sure that when i buy new boat i would be asking similar questions.


Good Luck
Greg




I wouldnt hesitate in buying another, but have not experienced other makes.

[death_ship]

You 4 stroke owners make me laugh....

Just to give an idea of oil usage and top up's I will give my figures...
The last 2 trips with my 90 E-Tec have totaled just about dead on 400 km...used 161 litres of fuel and 1.1 liters of xd100
Now I did venture 75 km's offshore both times,weather was good and I drove at cruise speed but the stats say that I'm getting near 2.5km per liter of fuel and around 145 to one with the oil ratio ...i think my oil reservoir holds around 3 litres which means i can get over 1000 km's between fill ups.

So to put it in perspective with a 50 hp E-Tec driven in your average inshore conditions topping up of oil may only be needed very infrequently...with all the other regular maintenance it would be very insignificant...

Not that I am stating that they are a better motor at all...
Just that topping up oil in the smaller E-Tec's will happen so rarely that you may actually forget to do it until a beeping sound starts and a light comes on the guages that tells you that it's time to top it up.

Scott

feel better?

[disorderly]

feel better?

Absolutely.

[Ocean_Spirit]

Mate,

I literally just finished flushing the big 200 E-TEC after a late afternoon 80KM return trip.

All I can say is these things are bloody good and hard to beat. Running XD100 on the XD100 setting and using very little oil and today not much fuel. Still have close to 3/4's after a run to Horeshoe Bay last weekend, and today's trip. Now have 40Hrs, running perfectly since day one and just getting better as it is run in, starts instantly and is a great all-round engine.

Very happy customer and couldn't recommend the E-TEC's enough. I know a lot of people running them, and have a lot more hours than the 200, on similar boats and set-ups, and have not had any issues at all and love the engine. So very happy. That said, know a lot of guys running Suzuki's, Yam's and Honda's and are equally bloody happy. I'm an Evinrude man and will always own Evinrudes!

I cannot stress this point enough - the most important part of the purchase is how the engine is installed, the propeller, rigging, height, etc. Buying from an honest, experienced dealer with the runs on the board and the best back-up service should really guide what you buy and where!

[Outsider1]

Mate,


.........I cannot stress this point enough - the most important part of the purchase is how the engine is installed, the propeller, rigging, height, etc. Buying from an honest, experienced dealer with the runs on the board and the best back-up service should really guide what you buy and where!

And that in essence is it marsbars! Find the dealer you are going to be happy with for the life of your motor, who will set up your boat the way it should be, and you want/expect. Only then do you ask him which motor? So your question should be which dealer!, not which motor!!!

So where do you live??

Cheers

Dave

[cormorant]

The other point here as mentioned that in different HP motors there is a difference in CC capacity. Some are busting their brains out to mak ethe HP and others are quite lazy.

On top of that all the crap dealers will be trying to package you up with a underpowered rig as the price looks more attractive. What is the max HP of your hull and what is the dealer saying is suitable or Min HP.

How much are you going to use your boat?

How do you fish? Troll , long runs then anchor?

Are you going to tow a skier or tube - adult or kid?

Warranty- the dealers and importers haven't reduced prices and the $A is real strong. In the USA they are offerring better longer warranty. It's gotta happen here sometime soon! well I hope.

On top of that as others have mentioned - make sure you are comparing apples with apples as you need to make sure all are coming with ally or stainless prop all avaliable guages fuel filters if required and so on.

All motor have slightly different characteristics.


More details will probably get some clearer answers of what to look out for but might not tell you which one to get as dealer service has a lot to do with it.


PS I didn't know the ETECS have changed parts in the latest motors- anyone know what parts they changed and what they are meant to fix and on what size motors?? Thanks

[ifishcq1]

In summary horses for courses and the dealers in your local area mean more than individual brands ie my big boat after changing from a 2st is far better with a big lazy 4st but on the tinny a 2st works for me much better than the 4st I used to have ... I know this has all been said at some stage and if anyone tells you that an etec or an opti or a 4 uses less fuel than any of the others that is plain crap when all the newer motors use at the end of a days fishing only a few dollars difference based on a yammy, suzuki, etec and opti that travell to the wides with me on a regular basis as long as they are set up correctly.. we all do about 200-300 km on a normal run so it is easy to compare

[bassfanatic5]

PS I didn't know the ETECS have changed parts in the latest motors- anyone know what parts they changed and what they are meant to fix and on what size motors?? Thanks[/quote]

cormorant

Have heard they have improved oiling system and additional lubrication points, different injectors and some other bits and pieces. There is a BRP etec owners forum in the states that has all the info. I am on the work computer at the moment but will post the link when i get back to my home computer.

I think this is the one.

http://forums.etecownersgroup.com/mb/barnaclebill

marsbars

I have an etec and would not own anything else, that said if i owned a merc four stroke or a honda four stroke i probably would not own anything else. Everyone will stick up for the dicission they made when they brought their outboard. If you are looking for a sub 100hp outboard for fishing and some water skiing the etec or opti are great ( can't beat the 2 stroke holeshot ). Other than that it's personal choice, and comes back to who is your closest reputable dealer.

[Dignity]

I think Marsbars has just decide to quit boating.

There is alot of environmentalists out there and I would assume that they would say go with a 4 stroke because with a 2 stroke you are still putting oil into the water. Now i am not a testicle person and thought that a 4 stroke would have used less oil than a 2 stroke, is this the case.

Marsbars, I agree with others, go with the dealer that is prepared to listen to what you are going to do (most important) then be prepared to spend time with you to make sure your rig is what you want (also most important).

[cormorant]

Big thing newer more effecient motors give you is increased range without carrying extra fuel. Range in one of out boats basically doubled over old carby jobs if run hard and we are carrying slightly bigger HP.



Thanks for the website - will have a read as I am sick of marketing from all the firms using some new acronym or "update" only to see no part number changes. Reminds me very much of car marketing- what a surprise.

[Mindi]

Good info Scott thanks. A few reliable facts go a long way. I dont blame the forum for shreiking when the Etec question gets asked again but as more new punters get hit by the agressive marketing for Etec vs 4Str its inevitable.
I dont want to keep it going but would be interested to hear any factual report of real live Etec failures..? they have been out now for nearly 5 yrs..? surely there are some actual failures to hear about....nobody doubts the reliability of Yammy or Suzi 4 strokes but people were understandably needing to be convinced by results on Etec after Ficht....so after 5 years.. do we know of any..?

[Splash]

Geees I'm hungry after reading all this !

Splash

[TimiBoy]

I had a long chat with a fella from Victoria, who's boat was sitting in the yard at home, minus his (60?) HP E-TEC. It had siezed with 20 hours on the clock, and was sitting at the dealers with BRP refusing to touch it. He said it had been two months, and no joy.

I can't vouch for the truth of his story, but man, there was some passion there, he really sounded like it had happened.

I run a Merc Verado, but they don't come in your size!

[Wahoo]

The question i would like to know is would you buy a 4 stroke or E-tch in your choice or are the engines similar.

in that size motors, for me it would be 4s zook
the E Tec still smells and sounds like any other 2s

[disorderly]

I can't vouch for the truth of his story,

Well aint that a surprise huh.