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I'm added as well .
Can anyone tell me if the vehicle exclusion zones at Comby or Nth Point are being increased or something like that? Is that what the petition is for?
The only info I can find is the zones were put in a year ago as a safety messure for families playing on the beach in front of the Comby Camping Ground (800mts) & Nth Point Camping Ground (600mts). There is suppose to be a bypass track around the back of the camping ground also. I know the Comby track is there, what about Nth Point?
The issue was posted on Ausfish here last year and sort of got the thumbs up at the time as being a smart move for everyones safety. Ausfish members posted that guys used to drive dangerously there. http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...d.php?p=663472
Rather than jump on a bandwagon I'd like to be a little more informed before signing any petition.
Last edited by Mike Delisser; 12-05-2008 at 04:35 PM.
M62, I can't find anything concrete either, but I would expect that the closure is for the protection of shorebirds as per southern Fraser Island, Double Island Point, Noosa River mouth and there will be many more. These closures are as a result of Federally negotiated international treaties that have been in place for many years and the State Coastal Management Plan which are now being acted on following research procedures. There is currently 8% of identified sites of international shorebird significance that are protected and this is desired to be 25% of these sites by completion of implementation of the shorebird protection policies.
Now, I am all for the protection of shorebirds, but there is a flaw in the strategy being emplaced for the protection of terns. At North Point these terns would be mainly - crested, roseate, bridled, caspian and common terns which all rely heavily on pelagic fish species feeding on baitfish for their food. Unlike gannets and cormorants etc, terns are not good at catching their own fish and need the presence of pelagics to damage the baitfish which can then be picked up by the terns.
So if pelagic species are under threat, then so too are the terns. Netting in particular is having a very detrimental affect on pelagic numbers (tailor, mackerel, tuna etc) and the location of the schools. When North Point, Sandy Cape, Double Island Point, Noosa Rvr mouth etc etc are netted, this relocates the pelagics further away from the roosting sites being protected due to 'area abandonment' (spooking). This (in turn) causes the terns to either have to fly further for their food, or to relocate to a location that is closer to the food source. Thus the protected site fails to function to its potential. Furthermore, if pelagic species' populations continue to fall, then so too will that of the terns as a natural consequence of lack of food.
I've been watching this one for a while as it relates directly to my research on fish behavioural responses to netting. The terns are my 'eye in the sky' in ascertaining the movement of species and I know that if the tailor have moved elsewhere because of netting then so do the terns go also (for example). - they simply have to.
My take on this situation, would be to pursue this line of thinking with the tern people and also the turtle fratenity. There is clout to be utilised here for a potential win for recreational fishing. The closure of sections of coastline to certain types of recreational activity for the protection of shorebirds is going to happen and can't be stopped. There may be individual victories to be won in certain locations where public backlash or scientific proof can keep a designated site open to these recreational useages. But they will be very isolated victories and to be smart, would be try and fight the winnable ones. 'Balance' is the key word in all of this and we need to try and work with government to achieve the balance they say is their objective.
However, beach seine netting (and other forms of netting) is a controversial subject for government and can now be placed under extra scrutiny due to the desire to protect tern populations. It would be in our interests as recreational anglers to pursue a reduction in netting activity that has a direct impact on designated tern rookeries. If a balance is to be found, then the netting issue must come into the equasion or there is no chance of a balanced outcome.
I shake my head in disbelief at the closure at the Noosa River mouth. There are never terns there when netting activity is occurring. I am aware that the K licenses operate when the majority of terns are in Siberia or Asia, but the juvenile and older terns do not make that migration and remain here. Those that fish the Fraser Comp in May would be well aware of measures to protect terns at that time of year - precisely as mullet netting is getting into full swing. The N1 license is year round and does operate when the majority of terns are here. On this beach (Teewah) the N1 licenses are used to target tailor when the terns are first arriving back on our shores and are dependant on the tailor feeding on froggies etc to rebuild their strength. Those that have been at Fraser in September and October will have seen the flocks.
This is also the time of year that the green and loggerhead turtles mate at Sandy Cape and are in dire need of sustenance due to the exertions of their mating. Those that have been north of Ngkala Rocks in October early morning will have seen the many turtles on the beach, resting for the next days errr... activities.
When Sandy Cape is netted (and it is very regularly), the fish take off and there are none available to the turtles (or dolphins and anglers) until the fish return in 1 - 2 weeks when they are promptly netted. This must impact negatively on both the success of mating and the health of the turtles generally. North Point and Moreton Island as a whole, also has a turtle population that is affected by commercial netting.
I don't know who is active in trying to prevent the closure at North Point from occurring, but I would be willing to offer my assistance, if wanted, in any way possible.
Lindsay Dines
Boy you sure know you birds Lindsay.
I dug a little deeper.
The beach closures mentioned in the original post are only in front of the camping grounds at Comby and Nth Point and as far as I can tell are 800mts and 600mts in size. They are purely a safety messure brought in after several incidents (?). These two closures are not to do with birds as far as I can see and I know there is definiately an alternative track around the camping ground at Comby. In fact at anything more than the bottom 1/2 of the tide you must use it anyway.
The Mirapool on the other hand has a 30km speed zone in place for the birds but that is not what the original post was saying the petition was about. There was some talk about closing a section of the beach at Heath Island but I can't find any more on that after early 2007.
Most of the letter in the original post appeared in a Redcliffe paper some time back and as stated was penned by Bill Gollan the President, Bulwer Resident and Landholders Association. It's worth noting that this association strongly opposes the closure to vehicals of the beach in front of the camping ground at Comby as they say it will increase traffic through the township of Bulwer & taking the track around the back of the camping groung could add 5km to their juorney. Two points that were not mentioned in the original post or the letter to the Redcliffe paper, but they would be quite relivent to residents on the Island I'm sure.
Personally I'd rather know my family can play safely on the beach in front of the tents without having to worry about them getting hit.
If anyone can shed more light on the issue please do, we can never be over informed.
Last edited by Mike Delisser; 13-05-2008 at 06:42 PM.
I had no idea this was going on.
Love Moreton.
Will we all have to sell our 4bies soon???
Thanks M62. At least I got some practice on the bird subject for the emails about to be sent.
So is there likely to be vehicular access to North Point at all?
Done. I guess greenies as well as being what they are are also political creatures. Whereas most fisherman are like horses in a race with blinkers on. All they want to do is fishhhhhhhhhh. I guess we need to be political as well to defend some of our natural born rights.
Done and more than happy to
my fav holiday dest for 30years and hopefuly
unchanged for another 30years
Great idea, just did mine. Is there some way we can get this message across to ALL the members on here? i have a feeling that many don't read this section...surely most members would wanna sign this!
cuzza
It's here and in the 4X4 Section.Originally Posted by cuzzamundi
Regards
mod5
Thanks for the info signed and sent! Cheers
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