Sounds like a little Bonfire of the vanities would not be un deserved.Originally Posted by stuartym
cheers fnq
Bother of mine was out around Caloundra 12mile on sat and said the buggers passed several hundred metres away. A few minutes later the sea went from calmish to being like it had been blowing SE at 30 kts for days then back to calmish.
People with to much money, to much spare timed, and hardly a hand full of brain cells between them.
"passed several hundred meters away"
This would be a good thing wouldnt it????
Lets not throw all boats into the same basket hey. Obviously the skipper involved in the incident deservs to get run through the ringers and hopefully he does and or has been.
Its very hard to believe that a boat was hit at 20 knots by a 20 tonne boat and they were able to motor in on their own. If so they are very lucky i think.
Even harder to believe is that the skipper of the small boat and the large boat didnt disscuss the incident. Offering a bottle of scotch??? i think this line either shows that the collision was much less then described or it didnt happen at all.
I have personally seen a 40ft boat run over a much smaller hains and there is no way that either boat could keep on going their own way.
And its not only the weekend cowboys or wankers in the bigger boats either. What about all of the smaller boats running around before light with no lights and cutting through navigatted channels etc. The mooloolaba river mouth at the moment is a perfect example.
Regardless of boat size it seems that there are a huge number of people out there that think the water is a safe haven and although they have a rec ship masters licence very few of them actually have any understanding of the col regs or bouyage system.
Maybe reporting of all these incidents will see the authorities step up the requirments for attaining a rec ship masters licence and make it a safer place for all.
Daniel
some of what you say is correct, but also it would seem that we are branding ALL Riviera owners as being wankers, inept, drunks and a host of other stuff! seems to me that there might be a host of big Boat Owners/operaters that are very good Skippers, and some might even be Riv owners as well, lets not be too specific in our labeling!
i agree dan, the initial story does sound a little stretched. if someone had hit me with a boat that big at 20knots there would be massive destruction and if i survived it, i would be waiting in their boat at the scene for the water police or coast guard to arrive. noel is right too, not every gin palace owner is as thoughtless as these guys may or may not have been. leaving a few hundred metres space at the 12 mile seems pretty thoughtful to me.
more to the point how many have you met that werent drunks, wankers, etc???
I for one have seen on many occasions smaller craft in the 4 to 6metre size under the control people that had no clue at all.
You know, lying at anchor over at peel and a power boat goes thru at 10 knots only 4 0r 5 meters away and amongst people swimming.
What about the wankers you have seen on many occasions who have no idea about distances from other vessels and the six knot rule.
Just because somebody has a larger than your boat doesn't mean they are wankers or don't know what they are doing.
a hell of a lot more than morons in tinnies that seem to think the rules don't apply to them..you know the ones..no wash within 30 metres of an anchored vessel does not apply to them...the numerous that have been complained about on here that anchor at night without lights on.
seems like you probably don't know any at all...jealousy can be a cruel thing at times.
song for pinhead
AHHHH... the Ramones. what a classic!!!
I don't wanna grow up...
(poor old Pinhead!)
Getout - like that idea - pls excuse my ignorance - pls describe what is a radar deflector - thanks, MalM
don't worry, I have grown up..I am sick of hearing of one group of people all labelled with the same brush..like saying all fishermen catch fish and they are all environmental vandals.
PS.."I don't want to grow up"..Tom Waites originally wrote and recorded it.
I had a call from an old workmate that read this thread and allegedly the vessell at fault involved resides in Manly !
Last edited by Black_Rat; 13-05-2008 at 11:48 PM.
Radar reflectors come in many shapes. In essence, they are device that returns a radar beam in the direction from which it came, just like a light reflector. Yachts carry them because the surface of their mast doesn't present a reliable reflection due to the round surface.
Mine is about the size of a small cylindrical fender.
From sailgb.com:
Passive Radar Reflectors comprise an array of Reflectors which reflect another vessels radar signal. The quality of the reflected radar signal determines the size of the pattern on a ships radar screen.
A ship making 20 knots will cover 3 miles in only 9 minutes - any steps you can take to give a vessel more time to avoid you are a must!
Passive Radar units may be open, inflatable or enclosed in a glassfibre or polyethylene case. At each end, fixings may enable a standing rigging or halyard hoist or mast mounting.
Last edited by Getout; 14-05-2008 at 12:35 AM.
G'day
Spot on Greg. I've dealt with many an owner with a bigger boat, and 90% of them are champions. It IS the smaller raft skipper that you have to watch most of the time
Dave
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