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  1. #16

    Re: Boat Ramp Geometry

    Quote Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
    Floating pontoons would be fantastic. Like the ones in Vivtoria as mentioned, but we also have them at Colmslie etc.
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    Steve,
    The launch/retrieval process, or turnaround time of the arrival & departure of vessels at any ramp is greatly aided by pontoons for family orientated boating (where the crew is maybe not so ‘boating’ proficient, but hey she looks good in a kini). Short turnaround times lead to a flowing process and a happy boat ramp – however there may obviously still be the odd ‘snapper head’ incident.

    The pontoons at Comslie are definitely far better than nothing, but a central pontoon is by far the better option, whether a 2x or 4x ramp. Why spend money on a pontoon and only have effective use of one side of the pontoon? Of course it means the ramps need to be a little wider, or 2 ramps with a gap, but in the overall project $’s this would end up being a small $ penalty for a very large gain – in my opinion anyway.

    One thing that I find more annoying than whether or not a ramp has a pontoon is a ramp that has a too shallow gradient, and the Comslie is a classic example. For a 6+m boat without drop axles the back wheels of the tow vehicle need to be wet for a drive-on retrieval? This increases corrosion prevention/maintenance requirements on both vehicle and trailer.

    Why are there so many public boat ramps in SE QLD alone with varying gradients? I’m not sure whether there is a ramp locality reason (river/bay/erosion/silting etc) however please ensure your study includes the same/similar vessels at ramps with different gradients. Basing your study on just one ramp would not provide a sufficient scope – again, my opinion. Is there an Australian Standard governing boat ramps? Maybe I need to google it to satisfy my own curiosity!
    Cheers
    Brendon

  2. #17

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    Most ramps in Vic used to be a fairly shallow gradient. I think it was simply the thought of the time back when they were built, to build them shallow so cars could easily pull the boats out.

    Many ramps in Vic now have a steep gradient and as such are excellent for larger boats. Patterson Lakes launching area for example has excellent ramps that enable launch/recovery of boats as large as 28ft.

    Perhaps new ramps for QLD (or anywhere really) should incorporate a small rock wall harbour to provide a calm area to launch/retrieve and it would also assist with the errosion issues. But that then harks back to cost to build the rockwall and also the impact on the coastline as mentioned before.

    Cheers

  3. #18

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    Steve,

    I think i've used every boat ramp between Tweed and Harvey Bay over the past 15 years, with boats from 10ft to 30ft. 90% of the time the boats would be over 17ft.

    I personally have never had an issue with any one particular ramp, just some are worse than others, with current and passing boat traffic being the biggest issues to me.

    Gold Coast (Runaway Bay, the Grand and Biggera Creeks) are the ramps I frequent most, depending on boat and conditions.

    I always drive on and off the trailers (i'm in the industry and use different boats all the time), and have no issues at all.

    To me, the perfect ramp would be Biggera Creek (protected in any weather, right angle, sandy beach, no current ect), but would be three lanes, lots more car parks and also with a pontoon set away from the ramp.

    I launched a 26 footer this morning from Jacobs Well with an F250 single handedly with ease. Had the post come up yesterday you would be welcome to come along.

    To me, the ramp angle isn't all that concerning, as long as it's not too shallow (I don't find this often with any ramps). I have never wrecked a skeg or prop on a ramp.

    Any questions, or if your on the Goldie send me a PM. We launch daily.

    Regards

    Darren

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    Hi

    This looks to a well thought out arrangement that includes a reasonable gradient and an allowance for min 1 m depth at low tide at the lowest point of the ramp.

    link http://www.victor.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=167

    Cheers
    Chimo


    Project description



    • This project proposes to upgrade the infrastructure and facilities at the existing Bluff Boat Ramp on Franklin Road, Victor Harbor in accordance with the South Australian Boat Facilities Advisory Committee Guidelines.

      This will be achieved by developing the following facilities:
      • One-way anti-clockwise traffic flow
      • Formal angle parking for trailers in the main car park area
      • Wash down facilities in the derigging and rigging areas
      • Two double lane ramps at 1 in 8 grade to 1m water depth at lowest tide level
      • Three floating pontoons, each 2m wide by 32m, or 45m long restrained by guide poles
      • Area lights, rubbish bins and bollards
      • Widening and dredging of the main basin at the end of the boat ramp
      • A sand beach area for beaching and small craft
      • A rock basin area to act as a stilling basin during dredging maintenance
      • Rock revetment seawalls to protect parking areas
      • Over flow trailer parking along foreshore with turning area.
      • A normal car parking area (26 spaces)
      • Ticket machine for facility use
    What could go wrong.......................

  5. #20

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    Scarborough ramp is a little to shallow a gradient. It is necessary to trim up the motor a lot to ensure that the skeg won't hit. My boat is a 18 footer, and it will hit the skeg if not trimmed right up.

    That said though, lots of very big boats get launched on that ramp.

    Its hard to state a certain length boat that will have problems - some boats have a deeper V like mine and this places the motor and skeg deeper below the waterline than other boats

    cheers

    Mick

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    Last edited by stevos; 25-04-2008 at 11:05 PM.

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    Victoria Point ramp is a worry at or near low tide. Tried it on one of my first outings with only the wife (no experienced boaties with us) in the Cruisecraft 685 Outsider because the ramp had a pontoon.

    Beat the crap out of my skeg and prop, I ended up dropping the trailer off the end to get the boat on, thank God for 4WD!

    Of course, AFTERWARDS everyone told me the boat was too big for that ramp!
    Carbon Really Ain't Pollution.

  8. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angla View Post
    Steve, Can you have a look at this victorian ramp that is set in the bay area of Geelong. Some of these in the Moreton bay area would be expensive but great for us boaties. Maybe even the deception bay area would be a good place to start with the expansion of Brisbane through Mango hill and the surrounding area.

    Chris
    angla,
    the ability of a lot of people to reverse the trailer between the pontoons would be a challenge at best , mind you the entertainment value would be good if you were not in the queue of course . last time at the mbtbc you would have thought the lanes were painted at 45 degrees .

  9. #24

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    Hi

    I suppose one rule for big boats could be put the boat in until the wheels of the towing vehicle are just out of the water. On some ramps this would mean that the trailer is realy sunk, which is not optimal if you are driving the boat on.

    What would actually be useful is one of those spirit level angle thingos that some 4WDs have so that you can see what angle your 4WD requires to be at when you roll it. If you knew the angle of the ramp, then you could make some judgement as to how far the trailer needs to go in. It would need to be pretty precise, I suspect the difference between a shallow and steep ramp is only a couple of degrees. Can someone advise what the difference in angles is.

    The other thing, is that I have no idea how close my skeg is to the ramp when I am launching / retriving the boat. I might actually see if I can get the sounder to work when launching to give some indication

    With regard to design boats, the way petrol is going maybe you should be working on a 4m tinny - thats what we'll all have in a couple of years.

    Whichway

  10. #25

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevos View Post

    At present I am having trouble pinning down a reliable value for draft but am edging towards 0.4-0.5m. This is ultimately something that I would like to consider more after taking a more practical look at the ‘design vessel’.

    Steve
    Hi Steve,

    Just wondering when you refer to draft of the vessel are you reffering to the draft including the skeg of an outboard or just the draft of the vessel not including an outboard.

    Because my boat has a draft of 0.7m with the outboard vertical.

    Les

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimo View Post

    • This project proposes to upgrade the infrastructure and facilities at the existing Bluff Boat Ramp on Franklin Road, Victor Harbor in accordance with the South Australian Boat Facilities Advisory Committee Guidelines.

      This will be achieved by developing the following facilities:
      • One-way anti-clockwise traffic flow
      • Formal angle parking for trailers in the main car park area
      • Wash down facilities in the derigging and rigging areas
      • Two double lane ramps at 1 in 8 grade to 1m water depth at lowest tide level
      • Three floating pontoons, each 2m wide by 32m, or 45m long restrained by guide poles
      • Area lights, rubbish bins and bollards
      • Widening and dredging of the main basin at the end of the boat ramp
      • A sand beach area for beaching and small craft
      • A rock basin area to act as a stilling basin during dredging maintenance
      • Rock revetment seawalls to protect parking areas
      • Over flow trailer parking along foreshore with turning area.
      • A normal car parking area (26 spaces)
      • Ticket machine for facility use
    I would have no problem putting my money in a ticket dispensor if we had some thing as good as this at Raby Bay for example. We do I suppose exept the rocks and the pontoon being locked off to the public
    Last edited by Taroona; 26-04-2008 at 11:07 AM.

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    Hey Guys

    Don't forget its not just the water depth at the rear of the trailer at low tide, its also the situation further out from this point.

    If this extended part of the ramp is not stabilized or even part of the ramp well back from the pickup /dropoff point, erosion will remove material and make a hole for trailer wheels to drop into and we know how much fun that can be. Eventually the end of the ramp will degrade and even collapse which is even more fun.

    Gold Coast Council forbids amphib tourist craft from using boat ramps other than the ones specifically built for this purpose. The operators of such craft initially paid an annual fee of approx $1400 per craft to use these ramps that were built to cope with the similar stress that drive on causes at "normal" ramps. Also the amphib ramps have a greater carrying capacity than the approx 5 tonne limit for both tow vehicle and boat trailer combos at "normal" ramps.

    Be interesting to see what come from this thread.

    Cheers
    Chimo
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    Steve

    Yes, One is next to the double ramp with pontoon at Sundale bridge.

    Cheers
    Chimo

    More Information including the process thru GCCC Minutes. Happy reading

    Council Meeting 6 June 2003 6
    Water Wastewater Beaches & Foreshores Committee 27 May 2003 MINUTES
    CONFIRMED BY THE CHAIRPERSON ON PAGE 13 OF THESE MINUTES
    ITEM 4 BEACHES AND WATERCYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMMERCIAL USE OF PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS BY AMPHIBIOUS VEHICLES
    WFB600/57/01-1(P2)
    Refer 5 page attachment
    1 BASIS FOR CONFIDENTIALITY
    Not applicable.
    2 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
    Not applicable.
    3 PURPOSE OF REPORT
    The purpose of this report is to:
    a Present to Council, the response received from the Budds Beach Progress
    Associat ion to the proposal to establish a commercial ramp at the southern end of
    Budds Beach, for the use of the amphibious vehicles.
    b Present to Council the operators’ proposal to establish a new ramp, adj acent to the
    existing ramp at Waterways Drive, Main Beach
    4 PREVIOUS RESOLUTIONS
    Ex Council Meeting held 26 November 1993 WS002:
    “1 That the applicant be advised that the use of the Budds Beach Boat Ramp is not
    approved.
    2 That permission be given for the use of the Proud Park Boat Ramp and also the
    proposed Southport Spit Boat Ramp, north of Seaworld, when that Ramp is
    const ructed and that the period of the approval be 12 months f rom the date of
    Council approval.
    3 That the Chief Engineer be authorised to release the decision.

    Ex Council Minute No. R95.0901.013:

    That Recommendat ion 2 of Council Meet ing held 26 November 1993 WS002 be rescinded and
    replaced by the following:
    "That permission be given for the use of the Proud Park Boat Ramp and
    Southport Spit Boat Ramp, by Aquabus Safaris Pt y. Limited, for a period of
    twelve months from the date of commencing operations".
    Council Meeting 6 June 2003 7
    Water Wastewater Beaches & Foreshores Committee 27 May 2003 MINUTES
    CONFIRMED BY THE CHAIRPERSON ON PAGE 13 OF THESE MINUTES
    ITEM 4 (Continued) BEACHES AND WATERCYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMMERCIAL USE OF PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS BY AMPHIBIOUS VEHICLES
    WFB600/57/01-1(P2)
    Ex Council Minute No W02.1205.003
    “1 That Council adopt Opt ion One (1) det ailed in t his report t o provide a level of
    cont rol of Amphibious Vehicle act ivit ies on Council cont rol led publ ic boat ramps,
    ie.:
    a That Council apply t o t he Chief Execut ive (QT) for writ t en consent t o al low
    t he use of specif ic publ ic boat ramp(s) for a purpose ot her t han a genuine
    private boating purpose, ie. commercial use by amphibious vehicles.
    b That a set of condit ions be developed, in consul t at ion wit h QT, which Council
    would seek to impose in permits issued by it pursuant to Section 9 of Local Law
    No 34.
    c That approval be sought f rom Chief Execut ive (QT) for erect ion of a sign on or
    near each ramp t o be used by t he amphibious vehicles, which provides t hat
    amphibious vehicles with a GVM to 15 tonne are entitled to use the ramp.
    d That once t he abovement ioned amendment s t o Local Law No 34 are in place
    and t he writ t en approval of t he Chief Execut ive (QT) has be gained, writ e t o
    al l t he amphibious vehicle operat ors current ly using publ ic marine facil it ies of
    which Council is the manager informing them:
    i Of t he cont ent of sect ion 9 of t he local law and request t hat each of
    t hem apply for a permit under sect ion 9 of t he local law wit hin a 21-day
    period;
    ii That Budds Beach Publ ic Boat Ramp wil l not be available t o t hem as an
    access point to the river under the new permit system; and
    iii That an annual permit fee of $1400 per vehicle be paid for each ramp for
    which approval is grant ed, t o be paid int o a fund for fut ure maint enance
    and upgrade of t he ramp(s) and of fset t he reduced funding f rom t he
    State where commercial activities are approved.
    2 That subj ect t o Recommendat ion 1 above, t he Chief Execut ive Of f icer be
    aut horised t o int roduce a permit syst em (including l icensing fee) for use of Council
    controlled public boat ramps by amphibious vehicle operators.
    3 That t he Chief Execut ive Of f icer be aut horised t o det ermine t he most ef f icient
    administrative method for the permit system.
    4 That al l amphibious vehicle t our companies using publ ic boat ramps be not if ied of
    Council ’ s resolut ion on t his mat t er, and t hat t he Budds Beach boat ramp shal l not
    be used after 21 April 2003, when the existing permits expire.
    5 That a furt her report be prepared for Council considerat ion regarding proposals
    for commercial use of public boat ramps within the Gold Coast City area.”
    RESOLUTION G02.1213.001 moved Cr Crichlow seconded Young
    Council Meeting 6 June 2003 8
    Water Wastewater Beaches & Foreshores Committee 27 May 2003 MINUTES
    CONFIRMED BY THE CHAIRPERSON ON PAGE 13 OF THESE MINUTES
    ITEM 4 (Continued) BEACHES AND WATERCYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMMERCIAL USE OF PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS BY AMPHIBIOUS VEHICLES
    WFB600/57/01-1(P2)
    That Committee Recommendation W02.1205.002 be adopted with the insertion of a part 6 to
    read as follows:
    “6 That all correspondence received f rom the Budds Beach Communit y Associat ion in
    relation to amphibious vehicles be attached to the Minutes”.
    Ex Council Minute No. W03.0410.004:
    “1 That Council not e t he st at us of t his issue – amphibious vehicles using publ ic boat
    ramps.
    2 That t he current approval for t he use of Budds Beach boat ramp be ext ended unt il
    20 June 2003 t o enable comment s f rom t he Budds Beach Communit y Associat ion t o
    be received and a further report be presented to Council.”
    5 DISCUSSION
    The operator’ s proposal to establish a commercial ramp at the southern end of Budds
    Beach was forwarded to the Budds Beach Progress Associat ion, request ing comments on
    the proposal.
    The Associat ion’ s comments, dated 26 April 2003 are at tached as at tachment no 1. The
    Associat ion st rongly obj ects to the proposal due to safety, t raffic, amenity and
    environmental issues that would result from the operat ion of the vehicles in a quiet
    resident ial neighbourhood. Council Officers have also received writ ten and verbal
    obj ect ions from six other residents or representat ive bodies (Eg. Body Corporate) out lining
    their objection. Similar objections have been conveyed to the Divisional Councillor.
    This is consistent with issues ident ified by Traffic Sect ion and Parks Gold Coast in the
    previous item to Council W03.0410.004.
    On 13 May 2003, a meet ing was held with the Mayor, Councillor Christmas, Council officers
    and operators to discuss the response received from the Budds Beach Progress Associat ion.
    The operators concluded that they did not wish to proceed with the Budds Beach proposal
    on the basis of the strong objections from the Progress Association.
    Subsequent ly, a site adj acent to the exist ing ramp at Waterways Drive has been ident ified
    – refer at tached sket ch. The site has been reviewed by Council officers and it is
    considered to have minimal impact on traffic, the park and amenity of the area.
    It is ant icipated that for this work, obtaining the relevant Sect ion 86 approvals under the
    Harbours Act , detailed design, documentat ion will take 4-6 months. W03.0410.004 only
    extended the approval to use the Budds Beach ramp unt il 20 June 2003. To enable the
    operators to cont inue operat ions after this t ime, it is proposed that for the Waterways
    Drive ramp works be undertaken in two stages:
    Stage 1 Works above HWL
    As the works are above HWL, no sect ion 86 applicat ion under the Harbours
    Act is required and works can be undertaken by day labour, immediately
    after Council approval of the project has been received.
    Council Meeting 6 June 2003 9
    Water Wastewater Beaches & Foreshores Committee 27 May 2003 MINUTES
    CONFIRMED BY THE CHAIRPERSON ON PAGE 13 OF THESE MINUTES
    ITEM 4 (Continued) BEACHES AND WATERCYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMMERCIAL USE OF PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS BY AMPHIBIOUS VEHICLES
    WFB600/57/01-1(P2)
    Stage 2 Works below HWL
    As the works are below HWL, a sect ion 86 applicat ion is required and will
    require detailed engineering design. It is proposed that tenders be called
    for this work and const ruct ion undertaken immediately after approvals have
    been received.
    As the ramp will be for the benefit of the amphibious vehicle operators, all cost s
    associated with the const ruct ion and maintenance of the ramp and associated access
    should be borne by the operators. The operators have agreed to this proposal, provided
    that use of the ramp is limited to those that have contributed to its construction.
    6 STATUTORY MATTERS
    The Transport Infrastructure (Public Marine Facility) Regulation 2000
    Section 6 - Condition of Appointment states:
    “ The appointment of every manager is on condit ion that the manager must not allow the
    public marine facility to be used for a purpose other than a genuine private recreat ional
    boating purpose without the prior written consent of the chief executive”.
    The Transport Infrastructure (Public Marine Facility) Regulation 2000
    Section 9. (7) - Using boat ramp or landing states:
    “A person must not take or drive on to a boat ramp a vehicle if the mass of the vehicle and
    its load (if any) together with any t railer that the vehicle is towing and its load (if any) is
    more than—
    (a) 5 t; or
    (b) if the manager of the boat ramp erects on or near the ramp a notice approved by the
    Chief Executive and displaying a greater mass—the greater mass.”
    Council must therefore seek the approval of the Chief Execut ive (QT) in both situat ions
    above, prior to the grant ing of approvals to amphibious vehicle operators. Sect ion 9. (7)
    also provides a means for prosecution of offending operators.
    Council as Manager can, so far as the boat ramps are concerned, make local laws and do
    anything Council considers necessary or convenient for the effect ive and efficient
    management of the boat ramps (section 187E(b)
    Transport Infrastructure Act 1994).

    Council’s Local Law No. 34 is designed to deal with the issues of Jetties and Wharfs and
    Public Boat Ramps. Conditions for the safe and efficient operation of the amphibious
    vehicles upon Council controlled boat ramps need to be incorporated into this Law. Legal
    advice recommends a number of additional amendments to Local Law 34 to bring it up to
    date, these include:
    Updating the definition of “commercial operator” which refers to the Gold Coast
    Waterways Act, which has been repealed. It should now reference the Transport
    Infrastructure (Gold Coast Waterways) Management Plan 2000;
    New definition for “amphibious vehicle”; and
    Update of penalty provisions for each nominated offence.
    Council Meeting 6 June 2003 10
    Water Wastewater Beaches & Foreshores Committee 27 May 2003 MINUTES
    CONFIRMED BY THE CHAIRPERSON ON PAGE 13 OF THESE MINUTES
    ITEM 4 (Continued) BEACHES AND WATERCYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMMERCIAL USE OF PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS BY AMPHIBIOUS VEHICLES
    WFB600/57/01-1(P2)
    Section 20 of the Local Law 34 deals with powers of authorised persons. It is suggest that if
    Council’ s powers under the local law are to be exercised by a part icular officer then the
    necessary delegat ion in accordance with the provisions of the
    Local Government Act 1993
    must
    be in place prior to the t ime when any of those powers are exercised by an
    authorised person.

    7 CORPORATE/OPERATIONAL PLAN
    Identified relevant organisational objectives include:
    1.1.1 Human and Environmental Health
    Maintain the environmental health and wellbeing of residents and visitors
    through a combinat ion of research, awareness raising, best pract ice,
    regulation and encouragement of community participation.
    1.1.2 Safety and Security
    Plan for safe and support ive environments for Gold Coast resident s, and
    implement strategies to enhance personal safety.
    2.1 Well-managed City
    Effect ively represent the Gold Coast community and provide effect ive
    management of services and infrastructure.
    4.1 Tourism and Events
    Support , enhance and promote tourism and events as the maj or indust ry in
    the region
    4.1.1 Premier Destination
    Support promot ion of the Gold Coast as Aust ralia’ s premier nat ional and
    internat ional tourist , conference and events dest inat ion, and build on the
    economic strengths and opportunities this provides.
    4.1.3 Sustainable Tourism
    In cooperat ion with the tourism and events indust ry and the wider community,
    promote sustainable tourism within the City and its role in encouraging residents
    and visitors to value and conserve the City’s unique natural and cultural assets.
    8 COUNCIL POLICIES
    Local Law No 34 relates to the operation of boat ramps.
    9 DELEGATIONS
    Not applicable.
    Council Meeting 6 June 2003 11
    Water Wastewater Beaches & Foreshores Committee 27 May 2003 MINUTES
    CONFIRMED BY THE CHAIRPERSON ON PAGE 13 OF THESE MINUTES
    ITEM 4 (Continued) BEACHES AND WATERCYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMMERCIAL USE OF PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS BY AMPHIBIOUS VEHICLES
    WFB600/57/01-1(P2)
    10 BUDGET/FUNDING
    As the proposed ramp is for the use of the commercial operators, it is appropriate that all
    costs be met by the operators. The works will be undertaken in two stages:
    a Stage 1 - access above high water, by day labour, preliminary estate $20,000,
    b Stage 2 - ramp below high water by contract, preliminary estimate $50,000.
    It is proposed that for stage 1, a prepaid private works orders be put in place to enable the
    works to proceed. A second prepaid private works be requested from the operators after
    the tender process has determined the price and before the tender is awarded.
    11 COORDINATION & CONSULTATION
    Consultat ion has been undertaken with the operators, Budds Beach Progress Associat ion,
    Divisional Councillors, Tourism Branch, Parks Gold Coast and Traffic Sect ion, Queensland
    Transport refer section 5.
    12 TIMING
    The const ruct ion of the access ramp above high water will be undertaken as soon as the
    design is complete to enable the Budds Beach ramp to be closed to the operators by 20
    June 2003.
    13 STAKEHOLDER IMPACTS
    Residents within the Budds Beach community have conveyed to Council their concerns
    regarding the continuation of commercial operations on the current Budds Beach boat
    ramp as well as their objection to any proposal for the development of an alternative
    ramp.
    A purpose built ramp at Waterways Drive, Main Beach will have minimal impacts.
    14 CONCLUSION
    The response from the Budds Beach Progress Association dated 26 April 2003 to the
    proposal to establish a commercial ramp at the southern end of Budds Beach, strongly
    objects to the proposal due to safety, traffic, amenity and environmental concerns. This is
    consistent with officer reports. The operators have decided not to proceed with this
    proposal.
    An alternate site at Waterways Drive has been identified, this is adjacent to the existing
    ramp and is consistent with the uses of the area.
    It is proposed that the works proceed in two stages to ensure that the operators are
    relocated from the Budds Beach ramp by 20 June 2003.
    Council Meeting 6 June 2003 12
    Water Wastewater Beaches & Foreshores Committee 27 May 2003 MINUTES
    CONFIRMED BY THE CHAIRPERSON ON PAGE 13 OF THESE MINUTES
    ITEM 4 (Continued) BEACHES AND WATERCYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE
    COMMERCIAL USE OF PUBLIC BOAT RAMPS BY AMPHIBIOUS VEHICLES
    WFB600/57/01-1(P2)
    15 RECOMMENDATION
    It is recommended that Council resolves as follows:
    1 That the proposal to const ruct a commercial boat ramp at the southern end of
    Budds Beach, as proposed by the amphibious vehicles operators not be approved.
    2 That the proposal to const ruct a commercial ramp at Waterways Drive, Main Beach
    in the vicinity of the exist ing public boat ramp be approved, subj ect to the
    following conditions:
    a all const ruct ion costs being met by the amphibious vehicle operators, via a
    prepaid private works order; and
    b appropriate operat ing condit ions be developed by the Chief Execut ive
    Officer to protect neighbourhood amenity and the rights of other users of
    the facility.
    3 That a further report be prepared by the Manager Tourism on the operat ion of the
    amphibious vehicles, including the use of public boat ramps, pick up and set down
    areas, ticketing and their effect on traffic issues within Surfers Paradise.
    Author: Authorised by:
    Bob Cunningham Warren Day
    Manager Beaches and Watercycle Infrastructure Director Engineering Services
    2 May 2003
    COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION W03.0527.004
    1 That the proposal to construct a commercial boat ramp at the southern end of
    Budds Beach, as proposed by the amphibious vehicles operators not be
    approved.
    2 That the proposal to construct a commercial ramp at Waterways Drive, Main
    Beach in the vicinity of the existing public boat ramp be approved, subject to
    the following conditions:
    a all construction costs being met by the amphibious vehicle operators, via
    a prepaid private works order; and
    b appropriate operating conditions be developed by the Chief Executive
    Officer to protect neighbourhood amenity and the rights of other users of
    the facility.
    3 That a further report be prepared by the Manager Tourism on the operation of
    the amphibious vehicles, including the use of public boat ramps, pick up and set
    down areas, ticketing and their effect on traffic issues within Surfers Paradise.
    CARRIED
    THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS THE MEETING WAS DECLARED CLOSED AT 4:03PM.
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