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  1. #46
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    We are mostly all adults, i couldnt give a stuff what anyone else says about my catch. I dont post pics anyways.

    I am a 95% release fisherman, and i give my mates stick about them keeping one 25cm bream but we are mates and hey thats life.

    I am going to post a pic soon of my grandads big 2.4kg cleaned bream. Hey people will have there oppinnions about it, but hey that was a fish of a lifetime for a man who fished since the 30's, so i couldnt give a toss what anyone else thinks.

    One point, i dont go to fraser because of the plundering of tailor that goes on there, and IMO i think that is something that needs to be addressed but thats my thought and i dont rant and rave about it.

    Cheers

    Dan

  2. #47
    Ausfish Platinum Member DR's Avatar
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    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    i couldn't be bothered reading three pages of the same old rubbish, read the first post & replied..
    if the catch is legal, who really cares what they think. i practice 98% catch & release, my choice..i don't get all bent out of shape because someone takes 'legal' fish, their choice..end of story, almost!

    if someone flames you, IGNORE them, don't get all defensive, pretend they never even posted in your thread. same for all the defenders, ignore the nay sayers & get on with it. if we all do this & they don't get a reaction they will probably get bored & stop.
    don't get all sooky & stop posting because someone has a go at you,don't let these people control the content of this site.
    IGNORE THEM

  3. #48
    Ausfish Addict disorderly's Avatar
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    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    Quote Originally Posted by DR View Post
    don't get all sooky & stop posting because someone has a go at you,don't let these people control the content of this site.
    IGNORE THEM
    Well said........

  4. #49
    Ausfish Platinum Member Peter4's Avatar
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    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    My two-bob's worth........

    I agree with DR - ignore them.

    For the record I am 100% catch & release but, like many others, I have absolutely no problem with people keeping a legal catch for a feed.

    We all need to have thicker skin when and if we post. Criticism will always be there - its just a matter of how you choose to accept it.

    Recently I made a negative comment on a thread and was chewed out by a response from a fellow Ausfisher.

    Two day's later we met face to face by co-incidence at the Cleveland boat ramp. Did we yell at each other?....start a punch up?.....make a scene?.....

    No, we chatted and had a laugh about it (remember Andrew?).

    The point is that written criticism is often more harshly interpreted than it is intended. Don't get offended - just keep posting your reports, enjoy the positive comments and ignore the negative ones or those you don't agree with.

    Regs

    Pete
    Last edited by Peter4; 23-04-2008 at 11:42 AM.

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    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    Everyone can get a bit passionate about something, fair ‘nough. And people can be forgiven for being a bit passionate about sustaining fish stocks. If you cast your minds back 40 years and compare the apples of yesterday to those of today and without a doubt we’ve come a long way, no easy task when you’re talking about fundamental changes in cultural practices across Australia. If we go forward another 40 years, well you all can have a guess at where we’ll be based on the journey so far.

    Size and bag limits, open and closed seasons and fish habitat protection areas are all enforced to maintain fish stocks. Working within those parameters is socially acceptable by most of the population regardless of our own individual thoughts on the matter.

    As we’re part way along the path to achieving some sort of sustainable fish stock level there’ll be those urging everyone on to do more, all passionate people. A problem with passionate people is sometimes it takes a fair bit of peer pressure for them to widen their focus to consider other points of view or issues and for very few its just about impossible, great drivers but can be rotten steerers with the wheel in their hands.

    Unfortunately some of the more passionate people are their own worst enemy when it comes to making any progress. By trying to get the applecart to move forward they’ll tip it over, a lot of energy gets used up righting it and we end up no closer to the goal, all that really was required was a little grease on the axle. Often one way the apple cart gets tipped is with people saying the wrong thing at the wrong time when all that was required to get a point across was just a little bit of tact that people would take some notice of rather than arc up.

    At the end of the day the person who thinks they’re fighting the good fight but refuses to do it in an intelligent manner only has their credibility shot, their sphere on influence reduced and will achieve very little.

    Sometimes you get that.

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    Ausfish Premium Member kingtin's Avatar
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    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    You're bob on Dick and thanks for that. You said it so much better than I

    A cracking post and my belated welcome to Ausfish.

    kev

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  7. #52
    Ausfish Gold Member
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    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Pasfield View Post
    Everyone can get a bit passionate about something, fair ‘nough. And people can be forgiven for being a bit passionate about sustaining fish stocks. If you cast your minds back 40 years and compare the apples of yesterday to those of today and without a doubt we’ve come a long way, no easy task when you’re talking about fundamental changes in cultural practices across Australia. If we go forward another 40 years, well you all can have a guess at where we’ll be based on the journey so far.

    Size and bag limits, open and closed seasons and fish habitat protection areas are all enforced to maintain fish stocks. Working within those parameters is socially acceptable by most of the population regardless of our own individual thoughts on the matter.

    As we’re part way along the path to achieving some sort of sustainable fish stock level there’ll be those urging everyone on to do more, all passionate people. A problem with passionate people is sometimes it takes a fair bit of peer pressure for them to widen their focus to consider other points of view or issues and for very few its just about impossible, great drivers but can be rotten steerers with the wheel in their hands.

    Unfortunately some of the more passionate people are their own worst enemy when it comes to making any progress. By trying to get the applecart to move forward they’ll tip it over, a lot of energy gets used up righting it and we end up no closer to the goal, all that really was required was a little grease on the axle. Often one way the apple cart gets tipped is with people saying the wrong thing at the wrong time when all that was required to get a point across was just a little bit of tact that people would take some notice of rather than arc up.

    At the end of the day the person who thinks they’re fighting the good fight but refuses to do it in an intelligent manner only has their credibility shot, their sphere on influence reduced and will achieve very little.

    Sometimes you get that.
    soooooo......

    the point here is that the written word is not the forum to tactfully approach others with your opinions on the moral/ethical merits you subscribe to.

    its too open to mis-interpretation and will ALWAYS cause debate and offense.

    lessons need to be learned by those who would flame the MAJORITY of fishers here when they take a legal fish - button up and if it goes against your beliefs, take it up with the authorities.

    is it over now?

  8. #53

    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    C'mon mod 5, lock it! You know you want to...
    Joel
    Fishing for the thrill, not for the kill

  9. #54
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    Mattooty
    you could do as I always do and only post your bad days and don't add a photo gallery as this only gives the huggers and kissers more ammo to use.
    pickers.
    and I've only been fishing for 38 years. lol

  10. #55

    Re: Pesky C&R enforcers!

    the point here is that the written word is not the forum to tactfully approach others with your opinions on the moral/ethical merits you subscribe to.
    With the limitations of a forum, saying what you want to say so its interpreted correctly can be a bit tough. Smilies are a great help there to give a sense of body language.

    A tactful approach to to raising the issue we're poking about at the moment would not be to suggest the angler should have released their fish, legally caught and on its way to the frying pan. The best thing anyone could do there is to genuinely celebrate the catch with them for all the right reasons that make it important to that person to keep that fish.

    If you think that upper size limits should be reduced make that the focus of a separate thread. You may just find that the angler who kept that larger fish may at least be happy to accept a tighter restriction or at best be an advocate for them, especially if the thread is managed well. You wont win them all but you need to win as many as you can to make a difference.

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