This is a joke, right?
What were you expecting from a deep sea fishing trip? How many fish do you think survive after being dragged up from 100m? If you wanted to practice catch and release, then why did you go out so deep? You knew in advance that it would be deep water. What were you expecting them to do with the under size fish? Were they suppose to break the regulations and keep it?
I just do not understand this thread.
must be a joke
never heard so much crap in all my fishing days
this takes the cake
pete
Now come on guys your being a bit hard on the man he is obviously new to fishing and the charter wasn't what he expected. How about instead of critisiing the man you offer some advise.
What do you suggest coucho?.....Originally Posted by coucho
Shoulda taught that Skipper a lesson....
Snapper head to the head perhaps...
Its a good point you raise , its a shame you felt pressured into keeping a fish aswell had concerns about floaters etc, i guess that depth will always cause problems.
My only experience on a charter off Rainbow Beach was awsome, the skipper ensured all fish undersize were healthy on there return i had alot of admeration and will return some day.
see my earlier post re what to look for/ask for from his next charterWhat do you suggest coucho?.....
Shoulda taught that Skipper a lesson....
Snapper head to the head perhaps...
sorry coucho..didn't read that one..I think I was busy posting at the same time .
Very good post BTW.
Scott
Mate what you after is a private 1 on 1 fishing guide.Thats what deepsea charters all about.
George
At Heaven's gate a soldier stood,
his story ready to tell,
St Peter said, 'no need my son all is understood,
Go right in cos you've already served your time in Hell'
I would like to clear up a few things. If everyone on the charter wanted to go out and catch fish to take them home to cook I would not have a problem. The point I was trying to get across was that two thirds of the people were tourists with no means of storing or cooking the fish they caught.
The second thing is that I asked and they told me that practiced catch and release which is one of the reasons I chose to go with them. This was simply not true.
Third, I have to disagree about the fishery being well managed. It did not seem to have any regulation at all. We spent over an hour driving in the wrong direction because one of the other large charter companies was shadowing our boat because they had completely exhausted all the fishing spots that they knew of. To put it bluntly they had fished out their known area. That is not good management of fish stocks.
finally, you cannot equate recreational or commercial fishing to sheep or cattle farming (agriculture). For a farmer to butcher a sheep, he has to grow one first. Commercial fishermen do not grow the fish, they just take what they can find. Are you all aware that there are 90% less large fish in the ocean than there were 20 years ago?
no large fish
only weather wont permit us to get out
plenty there
pete
"catch and release" kills fish. It's an over-hyped urban myth to make fishing shows palatable to a wider audience.
My vote is for the tourists who enjoyed their day out followed by a feast at their motel restaurant.
You tend to make some real doozies of assumptions here.
One of my best fishing experiences involved 3 other blokes and I (All tourists with no means of storing or cooking fish) chartering a longboat in Mexico(Puerto Escondido) about 15 yrs ago(for the princely sum of US$12.50 each...I personally negotiated this with a local pro fisherman because this is exactly the type of fishing I was looking for).
5 yellowfin tuna around the 18-20kg mark were caught and kept.
With the remaining 3(one was given to the skipper and deckie,the other was eventually given to a family on the beach because one of the blokes couldn't be bothered carrying it...quite hilarious in itself to see young mexican kids screaming and running away pursued by a tourist yelling at them in English, dragging a Tuna behind him with only good intentions.
Well after we dragged our selves out of there and onto a local house of ill repute to cap off that evening(just looking,of course,there was this most crazy stage show happening)it turned out to be one of the most memorable days of my life.
So nautilus,make your own feelings known by all means...but don't try and assume what others are planning to do with their catch(just makes you look a bit silly).
I also wonder where you come up with such figures as "there are 90% less large fish in the oceans than there were 20 yrs ago".
I cant even comprehend how that could be in any way accurately determined.
Scott
Last edited by disorderly; 06-04-2008 at 03:53 PM.
Disorderly,
The assumptions I am making are based on people saying to me directly "I don't know what I am supposed to do with these fish, because I have no where to cook them. Do you want them?" My response was, "no, I am staying in a hotel too."
As far as the 90% less fish, the article is:
ECOLOGY: Globalization, Roving Bandits, and Marine Resources
Berkes et al.
Science 17 March 2006: 1557-1558
DOI: 10.1126/science.1122804
It is a paper that has 15 authors from half a dozen different countries. Look it up. It is discussed on an ABC radio show
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow...06/1766715.htm
Something to think about because it is probably true. Even if it is only half true, it is still shocking.
I am feeling a little "green" reading this !!
This site is slowly being infiltrate by "green movement" and their poorly concocted stories with underlying hiden agendas. As many have said, If you want to catch and relase go to a shallow estuary and use soft plastic or circle hook. The moment you go past 60 odd metres and using bait, virtually every fish that is on the end of the line has nil chance of survival, either from the bloating or predator.
The facts of life is alot of fish taste good and ppls will continue to target them and so will I.
I almost fell of my chair in regards to that 39cm fish....
Humility is not a weather condition.
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