fair enough, I agree that a "for me" is something we should all use more often, but as a general rule, there is such brand loyalty to certain products, that regardless of how good, bad or indifferent another product may be, it will always be sh!t, there is a lot of half truths bandied about in reference to noise levels and fuel useage and a host of other stuff on both 2 and 4 strokes, that sometimes I just need to speak up and defend or degrade either if the truth is twisted or bent to suit the topic, but as long as it stays "discussion" and fun, then that is a good thing, and a lot of info can be gleened from sites such as this, even if it may take a bit of sifting through the crap to form some sort of truthful facts on a certain Boat, Motor, reel or line, does not matter, everyone has an opinion and theirs is the best because........