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    Question getting boat on plane

    What is best position of motor while taking off to get on plane.As I've been trimming motor right down,when I have people sitting on back seats,looks like the boat is wheelstanding,until gets on plane..
    Any advice welcome.

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    G'day

    With Ptt, adjust engine in fully (down) until you';re on the plane, then trim out to find the sweet spot.

    With an engine with fixed trim (tinny), use people and gear to your advantage to have a happy medium until its on the plane.

    What boat and power are you running? Are you borderline underpowered? Can you put people up the bow for a short time until you get on the plane?

    Dave

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Hey Ovakil
    My boat use to do the same thing but i put a cavitation plate on her and never had her popping wheelys again!
    Cheers Nick

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    22ft coxcraft,175 mariner.I think is borderline H/P.Boat is reccomended 175-225.
    I have 17 pitch 4 blade prop.I had a 19 pitch 3 blade which stuffed my motor.

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Hey Ovakil
    My boat use to do the same thing but i put a cavitation plate on her and never had her popping wheelys again!
    Cheers Nick
    I think you meant to say you put a foil on your cavitation plate. All boats come with a cav plate for free!

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Howdy Ovakil,

    Like Mac_Attack suggests a hydrafoil is a pretty cheap option.

    Check out this one as an example.
    http://www.solas.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=78.

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Smithy View Post
    I think you meant to say you put a foil on your cavitation plate. All boats come with a cav plate for free!
    Ditto Smithy

    Ovakil, I still think there should be enough HP there....... what do you mean a 3 blade prop stuffed your engine?

    Maybe wait for the likes of FNQ with regards to his opinion on your prop

    Dave

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Sounds like too much weight down the back if you're wheelstanding with the motor trimmed right in?

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackened View Post
    Ditto Smithy

    Ovakil, I still think there should be enough HP there....... what do you mean a 3 blade prop stuffed your engine?

    Maybe wait for the likes of FNQ with regards to his opinion on your prop

    Dave
    The prop was too big for motor,it put to much strain on it.Mechanics words were like driving up a hill in 4th gear when you should be in 3rd.I had powerhead rebuilt on it & put smaller pitch prop on after talking to Solas.
    With hydrfoils I have read a few posts not liking them especially when turning.

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackened View Post
    Ditto Smithy

    Ovakil, I still think there should be enough HP there....... what do you mean a 3 blade prop stuffed your engine?

    Maybe wait for the likes of FNQ with regards to his opinion on your prop

    Dave
    The prop was too big for motor,it put to much strain on it.Mechanics words were like driving up a hill in 4th gear when you should be in 3rd.I had powerhead rebuilt on it & put smaller pitch prop on after talking to Solas.
    With hydrfoils I have read a few posts not liking them especially when turning.

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Hi Ovakil, seems to me that you've got a weight problem not a power problem, would have thought that a 175HP should pop you out the hole with out too much problem, might be cheaper and easier to get your mates to come up the front with you untill you get it on the plane, what speed and revs you doing when you do eventually get her up???


    Broomey

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    ooops , like Blackeneed said, tuck motor trim right in, powewr up and once you feel it trying to plane adjust your trim till you feel its just right, but get your mates to move!!!!


    Broomey

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    whats it do when you go buy yourself?

    neil

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    Re: getting boat on plane

    Just a guess but it sounds as if you still have a bit too much diameter in that prop and the engine is struggling spin it up to get over the hump onto the plane where the hull will lift and the engine does it easier, how long is this bow up condition? It's not abnormal, as mentioned above what happens without the extra people.

    Without reliable numbers from testing it's all just guess what is going on but a foil will bandaid a the problem and make it plane faster undoubtedly but usually it is at the expense of efficiency elsewhere.

    If you do go the fast way instead of the time it takes to gather data then consider the permatrim as the pick of the bunch.

    cheers fnq



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    Re: getting boat on plane

    May have found a bit of the problem,when I came back that day I had about 20 litres of water in the pod.I have had this a few times.I have since resealed again & I've put in an old pump so next time I go out if water is in pod I will pump out then jump in with mask & look for leak.
    I have had jump onto plane quicker with less people,I just thought I was doing something wrong.
    Water in pod won't help Which pi**es me off completely.

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