Line class for bass ( Baitcast)

[NAGG]

Hi All

I'm just a little curious as to what members are using ( line class) for their bass fishing with baitcast tackle.
To date I've just used 14lb on my Cronarch ( yes Shimano ) ..... which is also my Wild barra / Jack .... reel
Now with my superb DAIWA steez ..... I'd like to match it up with a more realistic line class!
On my spin gear .... I'm using 6lb as standard!

What are your your thoughts?
Nagg

[Jeremy87]

4lb for trolling/bouncing plastics in the open, 6lb-8lb for hitting the edge and weedbeds and 8lb-10lb for dense timber work. I did 90% of my wild bass work last season on 6lb flamell pe and 8lb leader which ranged from surface luring to droping plastics into log piles. I pulled alot of fish over 45fork and pushing 4lb's this way many making it back into the snags but came out fairly easily, would have been proper bricked on less than half a dozen occasions. I go heavier using baitcaster tackle when spinnerbaiting in thick timber in impoundments. 10lb flamell on 12-14lb leader, keep in mind that i have enough confidence in my knots to run 3kg's of drag plus a thumb when needed.

So i guess what i'm saying is 6lb is fine for general purpose work, but if you plan on using the reel predominantly for timber work then up it to whatever you feel comfortable to run about 2.5-3kgs of drag over

[NAGG]

4lb for trolling/bouncing plastics in the open, 6lb-8lb for hitting the edge and weedbeds and 8lb-10lb for dense timber work. I did 90% of my wild bass work last season on 6lb flamell pe and 8lb leader which ranged from surface luring to droping plastics into log piles. I pulled alot of fish over 45fork and pushing 4lb's this way many making it back into the snags but came out fairly easily, would have been proper bricked on less than half a dozen occasions. I go heavier using baitcaster tackle when spinnerbaiting in thick timber in impoundments. 10lb flamell on 12-14lb leader, keep in mind that i have enough confidence in my knots to run 3kg's of drag plus a thumb when needed.

So i guess what i'm saying is 6lb is fine for general purpose work, but if you plan on using the reel predominantly for timber work then up it to whatever you feel comfortable to run about 2.5-3kgs of drag over

Thanks Jeremy ...... If you look at reality (real bs of most braids) & take into account what you have said ..... I'm thinking 6-8lb braid then...... 40-45cm fish have not stretched 6lb spin gear to date
Nagg

[Jeremy87]

Yeh 6-8lb true breaking strain is about the go, just remember to take into account tournerment pe's having a close to true braking strain. Since you already have a mid weight baitcaster i'd try to keep this one nice and light. stuff like fireline there's no call for heavier than 6lb with good knots, even 4lb is probably worth considering. i respooled my gecko with 8lb for this season, it just gives me a bit more confidence for when i have to grab the spool, it's also my general purpose reel that i use for squire and jacks etc from time to time, i'm probably going to grab a little tierra shortly to put on my spare canoe stick which i'll spool with 6lb. 6lb just seems right for bass for some reason.

[Luc]

ABU 2500C with 4lbs thickness Platypus superbraid for general fishing (trolling, light lures) and,
ABU EON with 12lbs bionic braid for heavy cover situations, heavier lures and trolling where cod are possible.

Luc

[NAGG]

Yeh 6-8lb true breaking strain is about the go, just remember to take into account tournerment pe's having a close to true braking strain. Since you already have a mid weight baitcaster i'd try to keep this one nice and light. stuff like fireline there's no call for heavier than 6lb with good knots, even 4lb is probably worth considering. i respooled my gecko with 8lb for this season, it just gives me a bit more confidence for when i have to grab the spool, it's also my general purpose reel that i use for squire and jacks etc from time to time, i'm probably going to grab a little tierra shortly to put on my spare canoe stick which i'll spool with 6lb. 6lb just seems right for bass for some reason.

i've gotta say ... I'm a big fan of the true braids ( not fused) & I really like the Daiwa Sensor Tournament .... Nitlon PEs good too ...... but I've never tried them in lower line classes
A mate is now using Bass Hard Pe .... & he is pretty happy with it! .... so that could be a option?
Anyhow thanks again Jeremy
Cheers
Nagg

[NAGG]

ABU 2500C with 4lbs thickness Platypus superbraid for general fishing (trolling, light lures) and,
ABU EON with 12lbs bionic braid for heavy cover situations, heavier lures and trolling where cod are possible.

Luc

Luc ..... I recently bought a spool of 4lb superbraid ..... & it was the biggest heap of crap ....... guides & bail roller got gunked up with undispersed dyestuff .... Sorry that was my experience!

I didn't know that Bionic came in 12lb ?????? ..... I liked it in 50lb ( best fly line backing)

Nagg

(PS re Superbraid ..... I've got a Cacutta 700 that was spooled with 30lb superbraid years ago ...... & it is still very good) ....... So I don't know whats changed ( except Dons not around these days)

[Keechie]

Luc ..... I recently bought a spool of 4lb superbraid ..... & it was the biggest heap of crap ....... guides & bail roller got gunked up with undispersed dyestuff .... Sorry that was my experience!

I didn't know that Bionic came in 12lb ?????? ..... I liked it in 50lb ( best fly line backing)

Nagg

(PS re Superbraid ..... I've got a Cacutta 700 that was spooled with 30lb superbraid years ago ...... & it is still very good) ....... So I don't know whats changed ( except Dons not around these days)

i am with you on that one nagg i bought some 2lb for my light breamming and not happy ithas gone all frizzy and has got a strand free hanging which i had to cut off and melt and leaves a bit of fluff also but for my bass fishing i use 10lb braid on my baitcaster but i also use this for snapper and big flathead fishing but i find it a good alround line.

[Jeremy87]

i've gotta say ... I'm a big fan of the true braids ( not fused) & I really like the Daiwa Sensor Tournament .... Nitlon PEs good too ...... but I've never tried them in lower line classes
A mate is now using Bass Hard Pe .... & he is pretty happy with it! .... so that could be a option?
Anyhow thanks again Jeremy
Cheers
Nagg

I used the 6lb bass hard shortly after it first came out spooled up on a 1000 stradic, i think their comes a point where braid just gets too thin for it's own good. It was great to start with but i had a few drama's and before you knew it i only had 50yrds left lol. It was also pretty hard to knot with aswell, it might sit ok on a baitcaster though but i'm pretty happy with the blue flamell, though i'm going to start trying a few others to see how they compare.

[Luc]

Hi Nagg,

The 12 lbs bionic braid always seemed hard to get. I also think that the 20 & 50 were much more popular especially as backing for fly reels.

I've seen the odd spool of the 12lbs at the Tackle shop at Carseldine.

A few years back when visiting Rod H on Bribie, I mentioned it was hard to get hold off so he gave me a "sample" of the stuff.

When I got home and transferred the line to a proper line spool & estimated there was around 300 metres of it.

Apart from some fading of the most used section, it seems to be lasting well so what I've got will last me for a while yet.

Luc

PS haven't had any probs with the superbraid. When I spooled up, I wet it first then I pass it through a moist towel when I wind it on the reel. I did notice a fair bit of muck on the towel.

[Bronson]

i use 8lb stren microfusen braid and 10-15lb fluorocarbon leader depending on the situation.


bron

[NAGG]

I used the 6lb bass hard shortly after it first came out spooled up on a 1000 stradic, i think their comes a point where braid just gets too thin for it's own good. It was great to start with but i had a few drama's and before you knew it i only had 50yrds left lol. It was also pretty hard to knot with aswell, it might sit ok on a baitcaster though but i'm pretty happy with the blue flamell, though i'm going to start trying a few others to see how they compare.

Jeremy ... did you have wind knot problems with the Bass Hard & or line wrap around the guides ?
Nagg

[Jeremy87]

all of the above mate, but i don't think that it could be blamed purely on the line, i think it had alot to do with the way the line had been layed on the 1000 stradic(and the fact that it was a 1000 stradics i really think those spools are just physically too small and too deep for their own good). I wouldn't expect to experience the same problems with a baitcaster. As a matter of fact i have difficulty remembering having wind knot problems on any baitcaster and guide wrapping to me has more to do with guide spacing/sizing and leader connections than the actual braid itself. but anyway if you do get a wind knot in the bass hard it has an annoying habit of self terminating and its abrasion resistance is very much below par purely due to it being so dam thin i lost alot of solid bream on rubble bottom due to breakages in the braid while i had it on my spool.

[barra_mauler001]

I use 8-10lb for b/cast, even know I use Jackalls ans spinnerbaits on the 8lb... bit risky... hate losing them things.. but anyway! And i use 6lb for plastics on the spin gear, goes fine and is awesome fun!

Cheers barra

[NAGG]

I use 8-10lb for b/cast, even know I use Jackalls ans spinnerbaits on the 8lb... bit risky... hate losing them things.. but anyway! And i use 6lb for plastics on the spin gear, goes fine and is awesome fun!

Cheers barra

Yeh ..... Certainly 6lb is fine on spin gear ..... & even 4lb at places like Cania ( except when you hook a 80cm Toga )
I'm just undecided on what to use on the Steez ..... I want to keep it light & get the benefits out of the reel! ......
I think I can be fairly confident with throwing HBs , Spinnerbaits & jackalls on 8lb Nagg