You might be surprised at how little they make ( specially in the estuaries) ..... I cant remember exactly what the Vietnamese prawn trawlers were making in Botany bay ...... but it was pretty low - $30K pa something like that..... & their were around 20 boats working the bay.Originally Posted by trueblue
Nagg
I scratch my head regarding the attitude towards a fishing license up north. The improvement down here is very noticeable.I know many dont like the idea of licences (over taxed already) ..... but having a well managed system does allow for things like pro licence buy outs & the expenditure of funds on fishing related projects.
I know I dont mind paying the $30 annual fee.
A lot of people cringe at the thought of spending a few bucks on a license but are happy to suggest a reef building program and drag fridges out to a spot a turn them into a reef.
What sort of cost would go into that, even if you were aloud to do it after you have cut through the red tape?
Pay a few bucks each year and it will be done for you.
One thing that has always stuck out (complaints) are the poor facilities in Qld
We too had poor facilities but they are improving significantly.
I now have a new ( pontoon) to use at one of my local ramps
Check this site out .... to see what is possible
Nagg
http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/fisheries/...onal/your-fees
I would be very disappointed to hear confirmation that fishing pros are not earning a decent income after all of their expenses etc.
As mentioned by Outsiderskip above, if we want to eat clean uncontaminated fish, we have to have Australian caught wild fish instead of the badly farmed asian crap. That means that we need Australian Pro fishermen, who need to be able to earn a decent living just like everyone else.
Cheers
Mick
I would be happy to pay $30 per year for a fishing license if I knew it was going to go towards infrastructure improvements etc.
$30 out of the many thousands of dollars a year most of us spend on fishing is of no significance when looked at as a percentage of our total costs.
Cheers
Mick
G'day!
I appreciate that all rec fishers in NSW love paying their licence fees. (Don't mention the Queenslanders from the Gold Coast who don't fish there now).
What hapens to the millions of dollars on GST that we pay on our fishing gear?
I wont mention tax on boating fuel.
Do the yellow raincoats in NSW share crop on a single licence?
Ray de R
Goes straight to general taxation revenue, same as all other GST revenue regardless of the product sold.
You can't expect that just because GST was on a fishing product that this tax would end up building new boat ramps and pontoons... Wish that were the case, but it ain't going to happen. Taxation income and GST are all federal government revenue, not the State Government.
Right or wrong about whether or not the state gov't should be spending more money on our boating facilities, they haven't, and won't, and we can't realistically expect that to change unless they recieve some further revenue to fix it.
Like I mentioned earlier, if I knew that fishing license money would go towards improved facilities, I would happily pay for it.
I want change to happen to get improved fishing and boating facilities, not just continue the winging and moaning about taxes to the government who will never do anything unless there is more revenue.
Cheers
Mick
Mick. Have a look at the website Naags posted.
Ray ..... I can tell you here & now , these type of discussions were well & truly happening prior to the introduction of the licence .............. & none of us were happy about it ...... (we all could see it just going into government coffers...... another tax
These days ..... I dont hear anything against them from my fishing mates! ..... & only positive comments with regard to improvements in fishing & facilities.
$30 .... is a small price to pay annually ..... when you can now actively target Jewfish in a place like Botany bay where 5 years ago ..... A jew would be a lucky capture!
The GSTs paid are Feral taxes ..... not state
Obviously most negative comments would be coming from Salt water anglers only ....... because I'm pretty sure the Fresh Water anglers can see the obvious benefits of the SIP ..... & the magnificent fishery that now exists!
If you want to see improvements in your fishery & facilities your going to need to think along these lines .......... because you aint gunna see money come from government
Nagg
Can we just admit that we have no control over where the GST revenue goes and move on.
I am quite happy where my GST money is spent, education, health, police , aged care, roads and many other services that allow us to fish in the first place.
And I am more than prepared to pay a small fee each year that will directly provide funding for better facilities for recreational fishermen.
Its $30 a year.........surely we can afford that to have facilities specific to our pastime built and maintained.
Gday Nagg!
Has something changed? http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/B...04/04bd072.htm says:
The A New Tax System (Commonwealth-State Financial Arrangements) Act 1999 (the Act) is the legislative authority for general purpose payments. The Act builds on and incorporates, as a Schedule, the Intergovernmental Agreement on the Reform of Commonwealth-State Financial Relations (IGA). The IGA sets out the terms under which GST revenue is paid to the States. It was endorsed by the Commonwealth, State and Territory heads of government in June 1999.
The main features of the IGA are:
As to freshwater stocking: in Queensland we do pay a License fee to fish in stocked impoundments (eg Hinze Dam on the Gold Coast).
- the Commonwealth must pass all GST revenue (net of administrative costs) to the States
- the States may spend the GST as they wish
We have seen some improvement in facilities here on the Gold Coast since I have been herein the past ten years (Grand Hotel ramp, Sundale Bridge ramp and the Spit Ramps that I know of). However, with Council elections only a few weeks away , the fishermen seem very quiet here on the Gold Coast on pushing their cause to Council.
Ray De R
G'day Ray
What was the last Feral budget surplus .... $15,$16Billion
Mate as I said ..... dont expect much from government......& I do know what your saying
Cheers
Nagg
The average line fishing pro only earns $15000 to $40000 a year weather permitting, to do any better than that you have to be suicidal and go in any weather or drag nets or use fish traps which you will find that most pro's just like amateurs don't agree with as its not a sustainable way of fishing that is why some of these practices are not allowed in some states.
But if you're a pro like me and enjoy the thrill of the fight catching all varieties of fish then you must enjoy your work because you will never have much more than a couple of coins to rub together.
Cheers samson
ypu already pay that in your trailer rego..but where are the extra facilities? not too much happening on that front..and you want to give the Qld Govt more money to do this..they already get it and do not use it where it is supposed to be used.
Yes, I would have no problem giving a fund that was set-up to directly improve facilities for recreational fishing a measly $30.00 a year. I already am happy to pay the SIP fee each year to fish the fresh and would gladly contribute for the times that I do fish the salt.
Why is it that we all seem happy to pay anything upto $100 to play a round of golf.....(surely the GST tax on golf clubs and cart hire should cover that) ....but when it comes to opening our purse for a total sum of around $30 per annum our pockets seem locked tight, never to see the light of day.
Puzzles me every time this subject comes up.
I bet you opposed the ambulance levy as well.
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