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It was reported in the papers in mid-January that there was $500 Million in unpaid fines and today it was reported that of the 6,000 offenders given community service, only40% complete the sentence.
Just fish where you always did and collect the tickets. I reckon that by the time they catch me I will be 120 years old, but I do have a good start.
Cheers
Mayney
I wouldn't be too relaxed. Ask what happens for a second offence.
okay..I'll askOriginally Posted by billfisher
i'm not sure about Qld, but in NSW marine parks a second offence automatically goes to court and you face a maximum of a $100,000 plus fine and jail time.
Haha! I love it how one bloke has different views to you and all of a sudden they are a greenie and alined with AMCS. If you blokes toned it down a bit and stopped accusing everyone of being a Greenie when they have a diiferent view maybe you would be more appealing to the public... instead you turn even your fellow fishermen off.
If I was alined with the greens I wouldn't be saying anything as violence makes everyone look stupid and plays right into the oppositions hands. I heard a clatter and saw people picking up pamflets and was told someone flipped a table so my mistake. No matter what it was it still shouldn't happen. I definatly was witness to personal threats to 2 staff members and it explains why police were present in Cleveland.
shane..we ARE the public.
On top of all this, it is my understanding that those pro fishermen that were given payouts up on the GBR weren't actually bought out so to speak. Many retained thier licences and just moved to SEQ and started up buisiness which put pressure on the local pro's down here!!!! Exactly the same outcome will happen to us rec fisho's when we get shafted into smaller area's. When those area's get flogged by one and all there will be ACTUAL evidence that we are having a real adverse effect on those area's and there will be further action against us. Not the flow on effect that they claim.
This is a brilliant plan that is cloaked behind sustainability that will have very bad short term effects.
I can see it now..... underwater shots of the few area's we will have left coated in fishing tackle and not a decent fish to be seen.
Then what will happen????? They realise thier mistakes and re-open the green zones??? I bloody doubt it!!!! There will be the perfect platform to launch the major attack until we end up like european countries......
As someone has said before on here.....WE ARE THE BENCHMARK! We don't need to listen to some UN report/theory.
Cheers Chris
Democracy: Simply a system that allows the 51% to steal from the other 49%.
I just hope these words will be available for reproduction in 10-15years or less when this actually happens. It will be great seeing all of those that predicted the future
Cheers Chris
Democracy: Simply a system that allows the 51% to steal from the other 49%.
A family friend will be having a meeting with the premier anna bligh, if anyone wants to get a short collection of letters detailing the KEY ISSUES and consequences of our arguements, 'll be happy to make sure it gets passed onto her directly..
Oh clocks ticking, think under a week from 4/2/08 pm. me for a meeting to collect literature. So Q is who is well versed and present short succint points?
Furthermore as for the legality of the fines, I would love to read the fine print on the fine itself.. maybe a few wording and loopholes avail. What constitues defying a greenzone if one does not have tackle in the water (as suggested)
What actually are your views shane_78? You seem to like to hit and run and avoid any scruitiny of your views. Eg, I'm still waiting for a reply to my post in the 'scientific evidence for green zones' thread you started. The next thing you post is a vague and inconsistent claim of violence at a EPA meeting.
Last edited by billfisher; 04-02-2008 at 07:19 PM. Reason: gramma, spelling
agree totally.
if you're gonna post up a thread entitled 'violence at epa meetings' then you have to get your facts straight.
Truth REALLY is that there was no violence, PERHAPS threatening words and POSSIBLY a table knocked over, which was disputed by long term Ausfish members whose words are respected and trusted.
Shane - you got your 15 seconds and caused the stir no doubt you were seeking. Of course you are going to get emotional responses and plenty of 'bites' - surely you can admit as a 'rec fisher' that you are, that you might have jumped the gun?
may this thread die a quick death and we get on with the constructive process of defending the bay.
Mick
I remember that well, I was there. Used to fly to work in a choppa, protest in the wrong area but they camped one night at tullah (stop over on the way to protest site) on a paynight, you tell me how much provication is that. One pub in town with a 1000 single men quarters. A lot of scapping went on that night.
cheers
blaze
Shane_78 I think you should read my post again! From memory i stated that all four of the threads you had started since becoming a member appeared to fly the same flag. I asked you if you were a member of the AMCS? AND SAID I COULD BE WRONG!
As billfisher says, What actually are your views? and why haven't you replied to his post in the Scientific evidence for green zones thread you started?
And Shane_74, what exactly were the personal threats you heard? did someone threaten to break someones leg? come on what was it?????
I may be guilty of placing a threat, yes me, i told the local member that if this proposal went ahead in its current form she could forget about me ever voting for her again, this the type of thing they hear and listen to.
Violence? a lot has been posted here about the actions of the rabid greens with their blockades etc, i can remember some years ago in an area where logging was still permissable they drove spikes into the trees hoping to foil the chain saws, an action that could have possibilly killed some poor bugger that was just trying to feed his family. But i guess thats OK in some peoples eyes.
Chilli - Mate i asked that question, about the airport extensions, the mangroves etc and was told point blank that it was outside the Marine Park boundary and out of their control. Funny that! once again $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ wins out the poor old rec fisherman cops it up the a**** again.
Cheers,
Obi_Wan
Hey FNQ Cairns,
Did you get a speeding ticket mate? Maybe next time you are scared of the dark you could deal with it yourself and not call the brutal cops. After all, they have much more important things to do, like drinking coffee and collecting massive pay cheques. You moron. Get a life. Without the cops there to keep order you would have been drowned at birth by people like me. And no, I'm not a cop. You can't whinge to your local greeny politician about me. The only reason you feel safe enough to make a stupid statement like that is that the cops are under control, and can't come and get you, or even make any comments about you. Why don't you go fishing and think about it? If your community service is all done?
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