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Troy.... in all seriousness, what these days is built as tough as they used to be?
Dave
Haines Hunter Today
Are Haines Hunter boats of today built as good as the older models.
I hear a few comments that today's Haines are not built as strong as they used to be.
Troy
G'day
Troy.... in all seriousness, what these days is built as tough as they used to be?
Dave
You only need to look at the weight of the older ones to know the fibreglass was a lot thicker.
cheers
greg
IS THAT A ROD IN MY POCKET OR AM I JUST HAPPY TO BE FISHING
Hard to find a boat manufacturer that would not be trying to save a buck wherever possible. To get a minimum standard you need to get a boat built to survey.
Garry
Retired Honda Master Tech
Forgot to mention other brands as well.
The reason i mentioned Haines only was because i am considering buying a 520 Prowler but cannot get much feedback on them.
Troy
Hi Troy
To quote a maye of mine who used to work at HH in the mid to late '70's
"back then they were built to a standard, not a price"
Regards
Bill
Back in 1994 when I bought my HH 520 SF it weighed 470 kg dry hull weight. The company was owned by OMC. I think you will find that the current crop of HH boats under John Haber are much heavier. The current 510 Breeze, which looks a very similar boat with the same dimensions as my 520 SF, weighs 680kg. My 650 Classic weighs 1300kg and the 600 Classic 1150kg. Compare these weights with other brands. HH is prepared to give a seven year warranty on their hulls. I would be surprised if the old haines Hunters are much heavier than the current boats and would be interested in seeing some comparitive weights. Ie does the old V19 hull weigh more than 1150kg dry and is it rated to handle 230hp?
Ie does the old V19 hull weigh more than 1150kg dry and is it rated to handle 230hp?[/quote]
Hi
Not sure of dry weight, but it would be somewhere around the 1000 - 1200kg mark.
The 19C is rated to 280hp
Cheers
Bill
weight has nothing to do with strength of the boat..less weight these days is due to no or very little timber being used which makes for no problems with rotting transoms etc and also stringer epoxies these days due to advances in technology.
You mean no timber apart from the transoms, and very single transverse or longtl frame in the hull.Originally Posted by PinHead
Well at least in the 800 prowler I looked at late last year....
That and the resins are polyester based, not epoxy based.
Quotes of hull weights are a load of crap when it comes to HH as none of the boats are weighed out of the mould shop there just guessing themselves. Put your HH over the scales dry and deduct your trailer weight and see what she goes. HH once built a great boat and had some of the best most loyal staff of all the trailer boat builders some with 20+ years service, unfortunatly due to management changes there is only 1 employee left that was from the origanal crew with over 3 years service, all staff are new. Some HH's are built in Melbourne now and in my opinion are of a very low standard I would not even consider a new HH. Do some enquiries as to what has happened to the 3 8m boats supplied to ET for his lodge, one sank and the other 2 are all in need of major warrenty work after only a couplle of months service. There are far better boats out there in my opinion.
Thanks TJ Bear that is the feed back i am receiving from people that are called up to correct the problem
Troy
Last edited by troy; 15-01-2008 at 07:38 PM.
Hi Troy.
I have been in an older haines and one (as recently as Tuesday) that was built Decmber last year. It was horible conditions, but the boat was awsome. I own a cruisecraft and a Platley which I am selling. V impressed with the new Haines. It was a 650 classic.
There is a good looking HH 635L in the 'Boats - For Sale' section. I have seen photos of this boat - if you'd consider and inboard mercruiser then she's tidy as and probably of the 'older vintage' as discussed in this forum. It's got a smaller 3.7l engine which shouldn't be too excessive on fuel consumption (guessing! as I have a 5.7l V8)
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Recently I was at a my brothers bbq who's good mate actually works at Haines Hunter and obviously we got talking about Haines Hunter with him as I own one and E.T's problems were brought up. The problems with E.T's boats were the modifications that the surveyor insisted be done were what actually caused the problems. This is by no means a Haines Hunter Warranty problem as the modifications were done as per E.T's surveyor and the problem will fall between them not with Haines Hunter. Before I bought mine I did a factory tour and did alot of research. These bastards are built like a battleship and as far as I know they are still heaviest boat per size built and their finish in my opinion is right on it. Even the small detail like flow coating right up and under the gunwales which most boat builders don't bother to do. If you saw their stringer grid setup and the amount of glass that goes into these tigers you couldn't help but be impressed and yes I have been through other glass boat manufacturers factories. If you want an honest opinion on the 520 Prowler ring Rod at LRM service centre as I know he owns one and loves it. His number is 3287 4333 and always happy to have a chat about his boat and anyone who knows him knows he doesn't talk crap. To finish off I think this might be a case of "Tall Poppy" syndrome and I reckon the only one who wouldn't own one is the bloke who couldn't afford one. I have a 650 and I love it, It would be easily the best built/finished glass boat I have ever owned and I have owned a few
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