As many on here are aware, I am against green zones of any form...far more for the EPA to fix than introduce Green Zones. I do not support the EPA proposal nor the MBAA proposal..I am in favour of sustainability via size and bag limits.
I have written the attached flyer and going to print them. I will be handing them out for a day at Raptis seafoods and then another day at Morgans and then at any other retail outlet I can think of.
Just picked up a form from Tackle World, " Have your say form: Regulatory Impact Statemant and draft Public Benefit Test..Response Form"
just another way of letting your voice be herd.
Terrific flyer, well done!
It all keeps the pressure up on the EPA, and can only help the cause.
Grant
Good stuff Greg. I hope you get a good response.
Chris
Cheers,
Chris
nice work.
Against green zones in any form? thats a pretty sweeping statement. Surely you would concede the need for some pristine waters somewhere in the bay, without miles of busted off nylon,lead sinkers,and hooks all over the coral and without dozens of anchors pulverising it and ripping sponges out etc. yes pollution and runoff are huge problems but a little concession has to be made [ i think] that we are part of the problem to.
Originally Posted by rufus_kev
Yes kev, I am against any form of green zone under the setup they are suggesting.
I would love pristine waters but no amount of green zones will give that until the EPA decides to do the hard work and solves issues with pollution and run off...like massive fines for anyone that lives on a water front block and uses fertilisers or anything else like that and even bigger fines for farmers that do the same on waterfront land. Also how about the industrial pollution.
nylon, lead and sinkers..do you think a green zone will alter that? nope..that will just be in a different area but no different.
now for the next bit..you won't like what I have to say about this but I am going to say it anyway...your comment about anchors pulverising and ripping the coral. There is only one reason a person could make that statement..ignorance. You want to make a comment about the green zones yet you have not made the effort to find out what they entail. The proposed green zones are no take zones..not no go zones... Please read the proposals before making comments on these.
What about Mud Island..it is not going to be in a green zone but it is approved as an area for dredges to get rid of their loads..not sure if this is presently the case but it is their proposal.
Once again..I am against green zones for the simple fact that they will achieve nothing except to make some green dopes feel good.
here here!
Cheers,
Chris
I didn't realise that currents don't flow through green zones. Only hope that any fish that busts off outside of a green zone does not enter any green zone until the hook has rusted away so the line won't enter the zone.without miles of busted off nylon,lead sinkers,and hooks all over the coral
Pinhead, really well done on getting off your backside and doing something. Lots of people complain, but few make an effort. If only we could get a few hundred thousand to do the same.
Pinhead I think you are a hell of a guy for doing what you have done but don't point the finger at the farmers unless you know all the facts, that is what the EPA is doing to you and everyone else that fishers, and it dosn't feel good does it. I have an issue with you talking about big fines for farmers using fertiliser on waterfront land. If you have not worked it out by now I am one of these farmers and I am in this exact situation waterfront, so what do you propose we do?
It's a hard way to make a living and the Gov't is only making it harder for us as well as the fisher folks and we also love our fishing.
Fact is that Cane Growers (the organisation) conducted water quality testing on the Tully River and guess what - only changes came after the river passed the town reach. Now I don't know where you are from Pinhead but I was born and bred in the Redlands and yes I farmed there with my father overlooking the bay as he did with his father 4 generations in total, the fishing in the bay was fantastic, and as far as I am concerned the bay was prestine, no algal blooms. Yet from Wellington Pt to the South end of Redland Bay was wall to wall farms, along comes development and now you have pollution, so it seems to me there is your problem "development", not the farmers.
Don't get me wrong I am on the same team as you but don't make uneducated judgements about things like farmers and runoff, we try hard to stop runoff and have done for many years. Massive fines should be for people that wash their cars on the driveway and let the suds run in the drain or for people that feel the roadside is a good place to dump their rubbish. Please leave the farmers out of this.
If you like imported prawns and fish and I know you don't, then you will love your imported fruit and veg and believe me it is coming. Stop all farming on the east coast and I guarantee it won't make a fly s**t of difference to the reefs, bays, creeks and rivers but with Peter Garrett in there this day is now a possibility and it sure does concerm me.
Agforce is really concerned about the widening gap between the city and the farmers and statements like this only make our life harder.
Good luck with what you are trying to achieve, we give you our support. We have partisipated in the first rally and hopefully we will be at the next one. We were also involved in helping to organise a rally up here when the green zones were put in place last year, so we don't just sit around and do nothing, we are active too, we believe the EPA are out of control and won't stop until they stop fishing. The EPA effects our livelyhood and our leisure, which is farming and fishing.
anchoring is not prohibited in green zones. Need to get some facts straight and use your head before typing.
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
good luck pinhead, i think your efforts will be in vain though. there are only 2 ways to stops this proposal from becomming reality.
#1 is votes ... & the sad reality is rec fisho's just dont have em or wont use them. it is a bitter pill but it is the truth.
#2 is $bucks$ ... this works two ways you can have alot of $$ and influence Govt. or you can start costing the bussiness community lots of dircect $$ in cash registers .. problem is you need to cost at least 7 zeros to register on Govt radar these days.
I dont think we have much chance.
REgards BigE
better to try and fail than not try at all...but at least hopefully some of the general public might get an idea of whwta is going on.
As for votes..a fishing vote is a non entity..never has been and never will be and in Qld..unless there is some decent opposition then this Govt will do what they want..just take a look at Health again..just let some mental patient out and he kills his daughter..very sad indictment on the society we have..only 2 people to blame for the tragedy that has happened to that family..the premier and The Health Minister..the buck stops with them.
Pinhead, good to see you doing something. I have been on your case in the past over your view points and still don't agree with some of what you say, but great to see some initiative and action.
Thanks!
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
Jeremy,
Just think how bloody boring it would all be if we all agreed on everything.
Nothing wrong with a good debate.
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