hi i am wondering what you think is big enough for like the minimum requirement to get from the brisbane river to mud island.
3-4 meters
4-5 meters
5-6 meters
or other
hi i am wondering what you think is big enough for like the minimum requirement to get from the brisbane river to mud island.
Originally Posted by Keechie
1. In 0 - 5 knots of wind: 3 - 4 metres
2. In 5 - 15 knots of wind: 4 - 5 metres
3. 15 - 20 knots of wind - you can survive in 4 - 5 metres but you won't have much fun.
4. > 20 knots of wind, no one wants to be there in any boat except a bloody big one.
I have been at Mud Island in my 4.75m Quinnie runabout on a very black night in 6 knots breezes that suddenly turned into a 30 knot rain squall. I survived in that size of boat but my wife will tell you that after I got home safely, I was a bit wound up for several hours. It was not pleasant.
15 knots is the limit of what I will want to go there in and even then only if the forecast is for lighter winds later. It is just so damn uncomfortable bouncing up and down in the short period wave cycles.
Also, I am not sure that I would want to go to Mud from Whyte Island in a small boat. <4m. It is a shorter route from Whyte Island than say, Manly where I go from but it is very open and the waves rolling there from either north or south easterly can be very lumpy. By going from Manly or Wynnum, you are protected by St Helena and Green Islands a good deal and can take a respite behind St Helena before gritting your teeth for the next open bit of the journey.
Last edited by charleville; 27-12-2007 at 02:51 PM.
I have a 4.2mtr bluefin tinny, i have been out there when it has been 15 knots, i got there and home safely but is quite uncomfortable. I have been there many a time in my boat, anything smaller would be ok in fine conditions eg: 5-10knots.
I agree totally with everything Charleville said, he knows the place like the back of his hand. If your boat is on the small side stick to the river and the creeks that run off it there is still plenty of quality fish to be caught there.
Marty.
I've been to Mud more times than I could count in my humble 4.3mtr glass mustang runabout. Few seem to mention wind direction which has everything to do with having a comfortable ride or not comfortable. My rig, while not deep V, tracks very well as if on rails. 20 - 25 knot N/NE is a walk in the park for the return journey back to Manly and really does not concern me. If I see that the Northerly winds are forcast in the afternoon, following sea back to port is much easier than if it was a SE in the afternoon which I prefer to avoid, such as today.
In the Brissy river there's another ingredient to watch out for which can affect your decision to go in a small craft - Outgoing current tends to make shorter waves at the mouth sit up steeply, especially in a N/NE wind. So my answer is no hard and fast rule. Know the wind direction to and from your planned spot to fish, and consider the tide also. I have easily negotiated 25Knots+ in the bay ( not by choice) because I have followed this basic understanding of what I have just said.
Scalem
have fished mud for a few years now and will not go if forcast is for waves more than .7 m even though it does not sound much in wave size but when you get to the other side of the shipping channel coming from woody point it can get a bit hairy with waves coming from 3 different directions even on a good day. i like the days it says 5-10 knot sw-se going nth east later in the day because the winf will normally drop out to notnng near the top or the bottom of the tide and this is when you run home
p.s all my boats have been 4.1 to 4.45 m
shane
i went out to mud from the mouth last sunday and it was pretty blowy. punching out into the NE was interesting and robersl is quite right - the worst of it was actually in the entrance to the bay from the river. was like a washing machine!
once that was cleared it was relatively average, yet it was around 15-20kts and a decent swell.
coming back was even hairier once we hit fisherman's island area - caught plenty of water over the bow. but i have a 5.2m with a full bimini so we stayed dry.
i actually enjoyed giving the boat a good workout
Any little boat will do on a good day but you get a big flood tide running out and a northerly over 15knt's and your in deep pek pek when you gotta come in.It starts about 2kay's from the end of the rock wall and ive had 2 bad trips thru there 1 in my 233 and the second was about 6 weeks ago in my 560 sharkcat a wave went right over the bow and smashed my see thru canopy so i was a nasty arvo. A chinese bloke came in and he was really scared for his life he was in a late model quinny around 5 metres in lenght. One day a family will die coming home after a day at mud.
the strecth in the brisbane river can throw up a good swell and chop at the windest of times
Last edited by loophole; 27-12-2007 at 08:45 PM.
... and the wake from the pilot boats can be a bit of a challenge as well in the river.
I really would not go to mud in anything unless I at least had a 27 meg radio, bilge pump, and all the other safety requirements like flares. I have done a lot of trips to Mud as deckie with Scalem so know the area well so was confident to travel to Mud in my 3.7 metre tinny in 5-10 knot conditions but on board I had all the necessary safety gear as mentioned above so I consider it to be a safe tinny. It worries me to see guys out there in tinnies on rough days that don't have anything in the form of safety gear. Had one guy stop next to me to say g'day on a glassout day and he didn't even have oars on board. Amazing really. Simple common sense should prevail always. Our best tool is to keep an eye on the weather via the internet and plan the trips. Wind direction is everything as Scalem says. These days I have stepped my comfort level up a notch buy investing in a new Blue Fin 4 metre in a runabout configuration. Very beamy and a lot safer than the 3.7 metre open tinny.
What you possibly should have done in this poll for boat sizes is given the options of :-
3 - 4 Metres
4.1 - 5 Metres
5.1 - 6 Metres
6.1 - 7 Metres
My boat is exactly 4 Metres so I could have put it in two categories.
Poodroo
Last edited by Poodroo; 28-12-2007 at 10:38 AM.
Mud Island is one place which gets plenty of inspections by the water police and marine inspectors. Day and very early morning have been my experiences for inspections.
If anyone goes there without all the required safety gear, they are just asking for a big fine.
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I go to mud quite a lot in my 410 ally craft but we do watch the weather & the water , when the white caps start to appear it is time to disappear back up the brissy river . we have had a very long & wet trip back to the mouth of the river
every boat trip is an adventure , we learn something new every trip as we new nothing about boating when we bought a boat a little over two years ago but have had heaps of fun learning .
safe boating to all
haggis ..........................
sorry Poodroo i was suppost to do that because i was in a hurry to go out to lunch so i quickly tried to do it and i don't think you can edit the polls anyway sorry.
regards,
keechie
IMHO????????????
If you have to ask that question then your boat aint big enough
Mike
Well you'd think the hefty fines would deter people wouldn't you? Fines don't seem to stop people from speeding or drink driving either do they? I think we just have to live with the fact that we share this world with some complete and utter dingbats who deserve to be caught out doing the wrong things eventually.
Poodroo
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