the best guides 4 braid

[OzRods]

Hi Nuggstar
Have you thought about the American Tackle titainium guides have a look at the lock ring guides for baitcaster or the single foots for spinning. They are a good cheaper alternative to the Fujis and you can get them in a gold ring (if you like that sort of bling)

Ring Lock™ Casting Guides
with Solid Titanium Frame

• Quad-Leg design provides greater frame stability against ring-popping lateral force
• Press-Fit insert ring increases contact area inside glue reservoir
• 100% corrosion resistant
• 65% lighter than Stainless Steel
• Diamond polished & perfect for braided lines
• Solid Titanium frame with Nanolite™ ring
• Nanolite™ ring is 45% stronger & ground round to reduce line wear and increase casting distance
• Ideal for Light to Med-Heavy casting rods

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Solid Titanium All-Purpose Guides

• 100% corrosion resistant
• 65% lighter than Stainless Steel
• Diamond polished & perfect for braided lines
• Solid Titanium frame with Nanolite™ ring in gray or gold
• Nanolite™ ring is 45% stronger & ground round to reduce line wear and increase casting distance
• Ideal for Light to Med-Heavy spin/cast rods

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[grave41]

I use titanium sic"s or cermets on mine as they are for me. They are the only guides japanese use with good reason,They dont even sell hardaloy over there.I"ve got a set of recoils for a spin stik if you want them $20 i"ll be at the rod building weekend. I have these guides on my Loomis glx and hate the noise but otherwise they"re not bad.
Graham

[OzRods]

Have a look at what happens to a recoil guide vs a ziconium guide when you hit it with a file. The zirconium is only slightly discoloured and the recoil is grooved. But they (recoil) would probably be alright for guides but I wouldn't use a recoil top as that is where most of the pressure and wear would be especially with braid. I see Ian Miller uses some of the recoils on his Camofish rods.

http://www.rodbuilding.org/photopost...php/photo/2450

[Mark Fisher]

May sound a little sarcastic but it's not meant to be, "Why would you use a file on any part of the guide other than the feet? I don't believe that is a fair test of any guide. Last year I sent some rods up to the AFTA Show in Surfers. When they arrived, the rod tube had been badly damaged. On opening the tube and removing the rods a few of the AMTAC guides were badly crushed against the rod blank. Only one Fugi MNSG was damaged. The ring was perfect but the legs had been crushed. Obviously this isn't a fair test either as the AMTAC guides may have taken the brunt of the impact BUT on removing the guides I found the AMTAC guide legs were easy to bend. The Fugi legs were almost impossible to bend. For me personally, I will stick with the Fugi's for shear toughness. They are the proven product (I would also like to try some of the new Batson guides. I've heard they are as good as the Fuji's.)

Mark

[Rodman]

Mate looks at ALPS they have the same type of inserts but have a 316 stainless steel frame.

Ken

[OzRods]

The Batson guides also have a 316 stainless frame (probably because they are made by ALPS) LOL

[OzRods]

May sound a little sarcastic but it's not meant to be, "Why would you use a file on any part of the guide other than the feet? I don't believe that is a fair test of any guide. Last year I sent some rods up to the AFTA Show in Surfers. When they arrived, the rod tube had been badly damaged. On opening the tube and removing the rods a few of the AMTAC guides were badly crushed against the rod blank. Only one Fugi MNSG was damaged. The ring was perfect but the legs had been crushed. Obviously this isn't a fair test either as the AMTAC guides may have taken the brunt of the impact BUT on removing the guides I found the AMTAC guide legs were easy to bend. The Fugi legs were almost impossible to bend. For me personally, I will stick with the Fugi's for shear toughness. They are the proven product (I would also like to try some of the new Batson guides. I've heard they are as good as the Fuji's.)

Mark

I think it shows how a company markets its super duper tuff titanium guides and then they mark real easy with a file. I also know of a rod builder that shows how tuff a SIC insert is by showing you what it can do to a grinding wheel. Its not a real life test but you get the picture. I would also say that Fujis are the go but he only wants to use 16lb line over them so I would definitey sacrifice the strength for the weight saving on a blank that will only have 16bl line fished on it. But thats just me