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    1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Hi Team,

    Whenever I want to restart my outboard after say stopping at an island or after a stoppage for a while, it will not restart.

    I am following the manual instructions without avail. SOmeone has stated the float in carbies need adjusting - If true how?

    If not, what now?

    I do have two carbie kits ready to go in..

    I have de-carbed my outboard.

    HELP??
    Cameron

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    For the love of God Splash - that donk still giving you curry??

    Mine used to have a similar issue - I have a 115 V4 Johno similar vintage - i tried mucking around with the carbies but to no avail. Mine was like it was flooded when trying to restart it after sitting a while. Once it kicked over (5-10mins later after first trying to restart it) it would blow a $hiteload of very fuelly smoke for 10 seconds, then all OK.

    Fixed it by putting on a tap to the fuel line after the water seperator. My donk seemed to get a syphon type effect after stopping and this keeps the pressure in the line, just stops fuel flowing to carbies for the duration.

    If I know I am stopping for a while, just turn off the fuel. Ready to go, turn on, kicks over first go and away.

    Not sure if it fixes your problem, but it did mine. Good luck.

    Chris
    Cheers,
    Chris

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    thanks chris - i luv my donk.

    that sounds like exactly the problem i have - sypon type effect.

    you have a picutre you can show me of what u did - and where?

    splash

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Hi Splash
    Could you just disconnect the fuel line from the engine when you stop, and only reconnect when you want to startup again. Just to try out this theory before you start modifying things?
    Station-rat

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    ok - will do.

    daddy - any pic of the setup?

    ssplas

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Hey splash - no mate.

    However, I just went to a plumbing supplies shop and got something together as the off the shelf stuff wasn't easy to find. You can buy off the shelf now see this 3-way tap for example. Allows two tanks to one engine or one tank to two engines.

    http://www.whitworths.com.au/main_it...AbsolutePage=4

    I'f I get a chance I'll try and take a pic for you soon. Bit busy with the election right now mate.

    Chris
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    Chris

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Mate,

    Quick diagram of how it is hung together for you.

    Chris
    Cheers,
    Chris

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Many thansk Daddy.

    GO THE LIBS!

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Hey Splash, did ya get the fuel tap in?

    Chris
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    Chris

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Morning splash.
    Your primer bulb has two one way valves inside it's makings to prevent the fuel running back to the tank, If this is happining, replace the primer bulb.
    This will hold pressure for the following start up.
    The v4 omc is a great reliable engine, Also the manual primer normally on the top of the air box on that model,check to see that's not weeping when the keys on ignition the spring wears internally do this by removing one of the small lines. cheers

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Hi Team,

    I still have starting issues.

    Now, it seems 98% of my starting issues are when initial launching from ramp.

    When out on water, it seems OK to start first up.

    I have rpelaced the primer bulb.

    When I am ramp first thing in morning, the donk just does not want to start initially. After the 6th attempt, it starts and out I out I putter..........

    I make sure I prime it first, give it choke and ensure crank battery is fully charged.

    THoughts?

    Splash

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by station-rat View Post
    Hi Splash
    Could you just disconnect the fuel line from the engine when you stop, and only reconnect when you want to startup again. Just to try out this theory before you start modifying things?
    Station-rat
    Hi SRAT - I have attempted this on a full day's fishing. THings wre good and starting was OK. The next session I had I did not perform this activity and also started well when out at sea.

    SPlash

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Splash could you please post your starting routine.... omc engines have a particular routine which needs to be carefully followed
    Garry

    Retired Honda Master Tech

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by HIM&HER.ADVENTURES View Post
    Morning splash.
    Your primer bulb has two one way valves inside it's makings to prevent the fuel running back to the tank, If this is happining, replace the primer bulb.
    This will hold pressure for the following start up.
    The v4 omc is a great reliable engine, Also the manual primer normally on the top of the air box on that model,check to see that's not weeping when the keys on ignition the spring wears internally do this by removing one of the small lines. cheers
    HHA - Which line should I remove when testing this manual primer?

    Should the weep come out of this lien or somewhere else?

    SPlash

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    Re: 1989 Johno 110HP StartUP Issues

    Hi SK.

    Ok here goes (what I normally do at ramp first thing):

    1 - Lower donk half way in water
    2 - Squeeze primer bulb until hard
    3 - Lift choke right up
    4 - Turn ignition key half way (and not start), depress in for 5-10 secs
    5 - Turn key all way
    6 - If start, lower choke half way and wait for about 20 secs
    7 - Lower choke right down
    8 - Lower leg right down
    8 - If still running, allow to idle for 1-2 mins
    9 - Put into reverse and out I go.

    I repeat steps 1-8 until I get start.

    SPlash

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