What Engine????

[Bonus]

Rod Fishing, My motor is XL leg 25 inch and it will not suit your boat?
Bonus

[disorderly]

4 Strokes are a vastly superior engine..

Now you really are off with the fairies,shane.
Could you please explain the reasoning behind this statement.

Rod,

You mention that one of your main reasons for wanting a 4 stroke is fuel efficiency.
Mate, I think if you do some research you will find that the new breed of DI 2 stroke is very similar to 4's in regard to fuel usage.

Scott

[Rod Fishing]

Bonus,

Thanks for all your help and assistance. I hope that the sale goes well I am sure that your donk wont last long.

Scott,

wwWill go and talk to a few dealers tomorrow about the fuel efficency, I still havent ruled out a DI 2 stroke.

Cheers Rod....

Rod...

[Vitamin Sea]

Thanks paddles,

A 150 Suzuki and Honda both are under the max weight form the transome. So that isnt the concern, the dollar factor is the biggest thing that i am worried about aswell as not putting to much weight on the back of her. I also dont her to under-perform, thats why i was thnking the DF140. Havent really had a look at the Yammys yet will look into that today sometime.

Cheers Rod....

G'Day Rod

150 Opti, 195 Kg, as is the 175, as is the 135, (2.5 litre blocks).

Re: Fuel economy, I doubt any of the 4 bangers would get any better economy than these motors.

I have a 200 Opti on the back of my heavy old Haines ( 19C ), gives what I believe outstanding economy ~2 km/L and I do tend to hit it a bit, because I can

Goes like a shower of sh*t, jumps onto the plane, cruise 50 k's an hour.

Do not discount DI 2 strokes.

Will not enter into etec V Zuk v Honda V Opti V yammy debate

Something to consider

Cheers

Bill

[jigsnreels]

Here's my 2 stroke/4stroke experience, for what it's worth.

Had a 2s 115 yammie on my old boat (5.4 fg) and it was really good.

Swapped it for a 4s yam 115 and with the prop that came with the motor it was a dog.

Replaced that prop with a solas 4 blade job and it was way bettert han the 2 s ever was.

I don't buy the "4 strokes lack grunt" story at all.

Cheers,
Jigs

[Rod Fishing]

Thanks Bill to honest i hadnt really even considered an opti but i wil now, I will be talking with all the dealers tomorrow so I guess i will make my decision then.

2km/l sounds pretty good.

Cheers Rod....

[Shanoss]

Now you really are off with the fairies,shane.
Could you please explain the reasoning behind this statement.

Rod,

You mention that one of your main reasons for wanting a 4 stroke is fuel efficiency.
Mate, I think if you do some research you will find that the new breed of DI 2 stroke is very similar to 4's in regard to fuel usage.

Scott

Scott, Have you ever had a two stroke dirt bike? how often did these motors need to be rebuilt? There is very little R&d going into two stroke motors. Most manufactures are going with with four strokes as their premier product. To tell the truth, i'm a bit over it all though. I'm pleased you like your Etec so much, i do know the feeling but with a different product. I do like to try and liven things up a bit though as you know.

[disorderly]

Scott, Have you ever had a two stroke dirt bike? how often did these motors need to be rebuilt?

Matter of fact shane, I've had both a 2 stroke motocrosser(yammy YZ) and 4 stroke trail bikes(honda XR was one) when I was younger.
The XR was a pain in the ass.To many little things to go wrong.Timing chains and the like.
The YZ was a ton of fun(luv that powerband...) and no problems.
Occasionally required new piston and rings which was a very simple process.
Only to be expected with the treatment it got.

Its pretty irrelevent comparison when compared to marine engines though.

Although in reality I'll probably put a 4 stroke on the back of my next boat.
I'm getting a little old to have too much fun and its time I started to slow down a bit.

[Rod Fishing]

Well todays the day when i go out and find what enne is oing to be sitting onthe back of my boat. Thanks for all your input and banter.

In reality though i really thnk that i will be getting a 4 banger and probably a Suzuki or Honda.

Cheers Rod....

[PADDLES]

shanoss, sorry to pull ya up here champ but motogp didn't go to 1000cc 4s for an "enormous power advantage". it was done because 4s engines are so linear and smooth in their power delivery it let more riders be competitive and also had the effect/illusion that the sport was more environmentally friendly. there were only a few blokes on the planet at any one time that could ever ride a 500cc 2s properly and not have poo in their leathers. look at how many more riders are competitive this year now they dropped it to an 800cc formula. i'm with disorderly here, i can pull down my cr and give it some love in an hour or 2 (depending on how many shed beers i have) it's stupidly simple, i've got other mates with 4s bikes and it's ridiculous how much maintenance they've got to do, oil and filters nearly every ride and valve springs every few races or so. you gotta remember the basics shane, a 4s has to rev nearly twice as much to make the same power. that being said i've now got a 4s outboard and it's awesome, turn the key and it starts first time every time, i only have to visually inspect it and then wait for the service light to flash on the dash.

[Shanoss]

shanoss, sorry to pull ya up here champ but motogp didn't go to 1000cc 4s for an "enormous power advantage". it was done because 4s engines are so linear and smooth in their power delivery it let more riders be competitive and also had the effect/illusion that the sport was more environmentally friendly. there were only a few blokes on the planet at any one time that could ever ride a 500cc 2s properly and not have poo in their leathers. look at how many more riders are competitive this year now they dropped it to an 800cc formula. i'm with disorderly here, i can pull down my cr and give it some love in an hour or 2 (depending on how many shed beers i have) it's stupidly simple, i've got other mates with 4s bikes and it's ridiculous how much maintenance they've got to do, oil and filters nearly every ride and valve springs every few races or so. you gotta remember the basics shane, a 4s has to rev nearly twice as much to make the same power. that being said i've now got a 4s outboard and it's awesome, turn the key and it starts first time every time, i only have to visually inspect it and then wait for the service light to flash on the dash.

Fair enough.. makes sense to me.

[Rod Fishing]

Ok here come the prices, please let me know what you think? too high or reasonable.

All prices except for the Mercury includes fitting, removal and hydrolic steering.

Suzuki DF140 $18670, DF 150 $22620

Honda BF 135 $16295, BF 150 $21350

Yammy F150 $21790+prop, Z150 $21050

Etec 150 $19500

Merc Verado 150 $21110 + fitting

Merc Optimax 150 $17551 + fittng + gauges.

Well there you go i spent almost all day getting quotes. Ijust hope that the missus goes for the idea, she did at first but she was didnt know exactly how much it was going to cost.

Cheers Rod....

[FNQCairns]

Ok here come the prices, please let me know what you think? too high or reasonable.

All prices except for the Mercury includes fitting, removal and hydrolic steering.

Suzuki DF140 $18670, DF 150 $22620

Honda BF 135 $16295, BF 150 $21350

Yammy F150 $21790+prop, Z150 $21050

Etec 150 $19500

Merc Verado 150 $21110 + fitting

Merc Optimax 150 $17551 + fittng + gauges.

Well there you go i spent almost all day getting quotes. Ijust hope that the missus goes for the idea, she did at first but she was didnt know exactly how much it was going to cost.

Cheers Rod....

Holy snap!! those prices are terrifying!!! I am stepping outside to go hug my smelly!

cheers fnq

[mirage]

Don't know about the others Rod but those Zukes are VERY expensive!!
I have just put a deposit on two DF140's, fitted, for $30,000.
There have been a few boat shows down this way recently and I think deals are being done. Last weekend was the Sunshine Coast show, maybe you could call some dealers there.
Just a thought.

[disorderly]

Seems to be quite a considerable price difference between the 4 strokes and the DI 2 strokes.
I didnt realize quite how much,though.

Perhaps if you asked your dealer to remove shanoss's commission on the suzuki it might even be affordable

Seriously though Rod,how does these prices influence your decision?
I mean over 3 grand difference between E-tec and Suzuki.That's going to buy a lot of XD 100 isn't it!

Scott