I had a look at the recently released land cruiser 200 series the other night.
My god has this this thing got grunt or what!!!!
4.5 L v8 twin turbo deisel giving 652 Nm torque.
I was drooling over the keyboard.![]()
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cheers
Owen
I had a look at the recently released land cruiser 200 series the other night.
My god has this this thing got grunt or what!!!!
4.5 L v8 twin turbo deisel giving 652 Nm torque.
I was drooling over the keyboard.![]()
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cheers
Owen
Mehhh, Thats not much for a 4.5 V8 twin turbo deisel. Im not really impressed by deisels these days. They havnt evovled much over the last 10 years apart from (common rail) Im off to germany in a weeks time. They have deisels that can do 200 mph. I will be having a very hard, long, look at these deisels and find whats different and makes them tick. Maybe have some handy info for all the deisel heads in here.
BD
200 mph in a land cruisermmmmmmmmmmmm near death experience I expect
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Its a bit fat tub of lard....getting fatter....supersize me please....ohh and can you slip me an absurd amount of money for the privilege of it
The 200 series is being released on monday.
My next load is with them on monday and carn't load them before that because Toyota said.
Graeme
At $87.000.00 On The Road They Have Got To Be Dreaming
WHATTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! $87 000. yeah dreamers alright. They are just pricing themselves out of the market. WHO WOULD SPEND THAT ON A NEW 4BIE?? You can build what ever you want from scratch with all your personal mods and stats, and still come in way under that. And youd have the perfect truck.
A guy my mate knows (who wants to drag me) has just spend $40k on his 80 series. Thats ontop of buying it. And its very very very nice. Alloy 350, custom paint and suspension, locked up, new custom interior, stereo, sat nav everything. And would crap all over the new cruiser.
Mine will be about the same $60k when im finally finished aswell. But for that, you get every toy you ever wanted and have a perfect truck.
why would you want any car that can do 200mph..no where in this country to do those speeds...bloody roads would be enough to make you lose control.
even at 87k they will sell heaps of them.
I call that model cruiser a managers car (its a rich mans toy). If I were going to spend a big wad of cash on a cruiser it would be on the 70, mind you I think they are just as expensive
They must be priced correctly - they have a 6 month waiting list already, I've heard. (Similar waiting lists for 70 series and Prado diesels).
Is there any serious competition? The patrol looks seriously tired now with half the power and half the torque in an engine which continues to blow up. Pajero/Prado a bit small (and check the pajero forums for problems with particulate filters) - they're both nearly $60k on the road too for diesel GXL-like models. Discovery? Almost as expensive and they're a landrover after all.
There's nothing else that comes close and Toyota will sell heaps.
If you go thru a broker they still have the new 200 series available from the first shipment and can get into one for just under 70K for the v8 petrol...I think your 87 is for the TD
Garry
Retired Honda Master Tech
Chisel - The D3 will still be likely to be better off road and will handle better on road even though outtorqued and outpowered in the TD form (not V8 though which still goes to the Jag V8 powered LR) - I am content to wait to reviews in Aus 4WD Monthly etc...
Toyota have got to be joking!!!
Base model GXL is $79,990 in auto with the twin turbo diesel. You can buy a TI Patrol for $70k that has a heck of alot more options standard, a ladder chassis, and solid front and rear diffs.
There is no way i would pay $80k for a base model truck with independant front suspension... ever.
You're right though Greg... they will still sell a heap of them. And i bet you'll find most of them will be leases through ABN customers or fleet buyers.
PINHEAD - I would never do 200 mph or want to. But they have the technoligy to make a deisel faster than a normal car. Thats what im interested in. Might even convert me back to deisel. mmm naaa. I know they will sell heaps of 200's. But like my topender said, i personally would never pay that for an inferier 4x4, independant front toy 4x4.
We have always had 4x4's in my family all my life. And my dad did pay 80K for a new 80 series, picked it up and left for a 2 week 4x4 holiday upto cooktown and the cape the next day. That was worth the 80k. But not these toys.
I have a gu patrol i just spend 25k putting a worked 5.7 gen 3 into. I wanted to buy a new gu. But i drove it and it was sooo damn slow. I got 1 3 years old and just out of warrantee for 31K. Craps all over a new 1. I think patrol (although underpowered) is the best package. But im learning more and more and now i think you cant beat an 80 series cruiser. Very well made truck and a hell of alot smoother than my gu. All its components are easy and simple and work very very well in standard form. apart from lsd's and a few things which youd get lockers for anyway.
Im replacing things (control arms etc) in my patrol left right and centre to get it the way i want it. But my mate with the 80 series, dont have to change much at all.
My 2 bobs worth
Last edited by BenDover; 10-11-2007 at 10:40 AM.