Ive seen a lot of propoganda abouth the E-tech , to the point that im thinking of an upgrade from my 90hp Honda 4 stroke ta a 115hp e-tech.
My boat is a 5.3m Yalta Craft and it takes a bit to long to get on the plane for my liking.
Wondering if anyone can tell me if they live up to the hype:
- As quiet as a four stroke
- More fuel efficient than a four stroke
Obviously they will be more powerful given they are a two stroke engine.
Any feedback would be great.
Pinguu
E-tec not e-tech.
Yes, believe the hype..
Why don't you look at changing your prop. Would be alot cheaper option.
BS.
Surely changing my prop couldnt match the performance of a two stroke ??
I imagine this will change the performance range from out slow and high top speed , to out quickly and low top speed ??
There are some reviews on Boatpoint comparing DI 2 strokes and 4S. They looked at fuel consumption as one variable.
There are no bad outboards on the market any more. From my research none of the DI strokes get the same fuel economy as any of the 4S and you are still up for proprietary 2S oil and are a lot noisier than your Honda.
2S have less servicing and apparently more torque and if you believe BRP the E-Tec’s have lower emissions.
I don’t think I would be unbolting the Honda just yet.
No doubt BRP will telling us E-Tec is the future for cars…
the only one i can say i believe is not a true claim is being as quite as a 4 stroke, had one beside me at the ramp and was not close to the quiteness of my suzuki.
cheers, shappy
1 thing to remember they are still a 2 stroke,
People who own an etec:
i have been out in Direct Injection 2 strokes before and they get that awful oilly smell when in the cabin/helm (really noticeable with clears up), do etecs give that oilly smell also or are they like a 4 stroke?
Bring on the Marlin!!!
Full synthetic oil mate , no smoke, no smell.Originally Posted by philip_thomson
Here is the most thorough ,independent review about e-tecs that i found .
http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...ral/ETEC1.aspx
On the honda side i have friends with a honda and they very happy as well.
George
At Heaven's gate a soldier stood,
his story ready to tell,
St Peter said, 'no need my son all is understood,
Go right in cos you've already served your time in Hell'
i think a lot of people get brainwashed with etecs ridiculous marketing campigns. One that sticks in my head was the one where it did a tug of war against the same boat with a four stroke. complete bullshit. at the end of the day its a two stroke. id think very carefully about changing from the honda to the evinrude.
It is they commercial mate,who did you think is gonna win?Duuuhhhh
By the way 2 strokes got more low end torque ,so off the grid it is true.However trim ,propping plays a much bigger part of it.
George
Last edited by manchild; 04-11-2007 at 09:00 PM.
At Heaven's gate a soldier stood,
his story ready to tell,
St Peter said, 'no need my son all is understood,
Go right in cos you've already served your time in Hell'
Guess that's the whole point of a marketing campaign then isn't it fish guts!!
It's also probably become one of the most talked about outboard motor marketing campaigns ever.(even by detractors like yourself)
So love it or loath it,its pretty clever stuff in my books.
oh...and of course I'm sure it's all true.It's not as if anyone paying huge money for an advertising campaign is going to create biased ads.
scott
Its only been the most talked about campaigns becasue its a crok of shiiiite. each to their own thou. not wanting to take over the thread.
but....i think a better way of marketing a product is not to do riduculous demos but to show a proven ability that the engines are strong enough to cop a hiding. How many commercial vessels use etecs ? ................i rest my case.
I'll second that disorderly:
Sick of people always bagging e-tecs in their threads yet they themselves have never owned one, its always "a mates engine" or "someone they know" or something they've heard fifth hand.
If your going to bag em, either be an owner of one or have some bloody good evidence, otherwise your the one full of shiiiite!
BS
yeah look i dont want to get into a war with you etec owners. Bustatsu...If you've got an issue, grab a tissue. All i was referring to was the misleading advertising that etecs are promoted with. And higlighing that etecs arent used heavily in Australia for commercial applications and to me it identifies that they are..
1- either not as fuel efficent as suggested
2- not as robust as they are marketed
3- not as cost effecient in comparisson to other brands.
The misleading marketing i am referring to is as follows.
1- Etecs dont need to be serviced for 2-3 years.
2- Etecs are as fuel efficient as a 4 stroke.
3- Etecs have massive power outputs compared to 4 strokes. (evdient in the tug of war stunt)
And no i dont own one, and i never will. And no, you dont have to be an owner of an etec to discredit an outboard. Find me one piece of suzuki or yamaha marketing that is as misleading as etec's current advertisments ? And if etecs are as good as they say, why doesnt evey cash strapped vmr, coastguard,water police, fisheies and pro not use the etecs ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7I00cZUE0 -etec 'Marketing'.
cheers
Fish Guts
Think he's talking about ya,Guts
So hows the zuke going anyway?
So guts, I watched the tug of war and the only real claim made was that the yammy was heavier and had less torque than the E-tec.......hardly call that misleading,would you?bout what you'd expect comparing a 4 stroke to a 2 stroke DI.
Pinguu,
Any 115hp(4 or 2 stroke) is going to be an improvement in performance over the 90 of course .the only real difference I can see is that the 4 might be slightly quieter and a tad more economical fuel wise than the E-Tec which will be slightly more torquey and as you can see seems to turn some 4 stroke owners green with envy.
Scott
Lads,
Nice to see a heathly level of opinion from boths sides, obviously you all are passionate about your side of the debate, whichever that may be.
To be honest Im still confused as to whether it is a good product or not, so I guess unless Im willing to put up my cash , I may never get to the truth.
When its all said and done my Honda has been very reliable and is very fuel efficient and Im unlikely to change. It would be nice to have a bit more grunt though.
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