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    Free North Pine Dam

    I have recently heard they are trying to get NPD and lake Kurwongbah in the SIPS program. This means all those families that head up to bullockies rest or McGaving view for the weekend bbq's are now gonna have to pay for the right to let their youngsters throw in a line and cut there teeth in a place a lot of us have been introduced to fishing in.

    I personally think that a place that is set up and promoted as being a family freindly environment should not require a permit to allow poeple to wet a line.

    I know the PRFMA have been struggling of late with the drought and the inability to have the boating access scheme to raise funds to keep the fingerlings coming and keep stocking this great lake but what is the point of filling the dam with quality fish when the youngsters cant even have a fish while dad cooks a barbie. I know the PRFMA needs money and maybe we can look at a donation scheme or small one off fee to have access on the day.

    Anyway lets open this up and see what the public think and maybe we can do something about it and raise some valid points for both sides of the argument.

    Cheers

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    thats stupid, and unfair i think, your dead right about the family friendly enviroment. if they need money there not gonna get much, by charging people to use the facilities.
    try a fundraiser for the dam on ausfish and other sites im sure people will be willing to donate.




    thats my opinion.

    cam
    Last edited by Cammy; 21-10-2007 at 11:03 PM.
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    I personally dont fish at NPD so dont know the layout very well but i do know that all the dams that are apart of the SIP scheme are alot better off now that it has been introduced. the fishing in these dams are alot better than they used to be and also those under 18 do not need one. for the rest of us 35 bucks a year is cheap as chips

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    Why shouldnt it be part of the SIP ?
    The kids dont need a permit and why should the PRFMA bear the total cost of the stocking.
    They are not a charity but a bunch of dedicated blokes who have done a great job in the past and I am certain they will continue in the future.
    It must really gall them to see all the meat fisho families rapeing the place.
    I wonder if they will pay their $35 to fish there?
    Lets hope it will deter some of them.
    If the cost of stocking and managing the fishery was born by the government or the council it may be argued that no permit is required but why should the PRFMA and its members bear the cost.
    You do not need a sip if you are under 18 so that negates any arguement that it will deprive the kids.
    Are you certain that you do not wish to pay a pittance of $35 per year?
    Cheers
    Ray
    Last edited by rayken1938; 21-10-2007 at 07:38 PM. Reason: spelling

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    i think i got a bit overmad , i thought it would be more money than that, like how you had to pay to use boats. i dont no anything about sips, and i judged them as bad poeple who want to wreck my fishing , but now i see they arent and i feel a bit embarrased lol. but yer if it improves the fishing im up for it, mabye a fundraiser on the net would help!

    cam
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    have a fishing comp to raise money, they did it every year at hinze. all you gotta do is get 1 sponser the rest will follow.
    jamie

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    Folks, the idea has been floated but it hasn't been set in stone as yet. Personally I'm just a johnny come lately to this fish stocking caper (and I blame Fitzy for getting me involved) but I now have a better understanding of how much effort goes into and has gone into getting NPD to the point it is now. For over 14 years this bunch of volunteers have worked tirelessly and with little or no thanks or recognition to produce a quality fishery right on our doorstep.
    You hear stories of blokes tipping in their own money, holding chook raffles ect. so they could achieve what they have done. All of this prior to the boating access scheme which won't activate again until the dam is back over 50% full. Where the next lot of money is going to come from is always a worry as no one wants the impoundment to go backwards or at the absolute worst the association to stop being operational. Mind you if this occurs the debate on SIPS won't matter as there wont be a long term fishery there to argue over anyway.
    The question of kids getting access was one of the first concerns raised, particularly as the members are committed to promoting fishing for kids and they do this by staffing fishing clinics and the on going Australia day Family day on Kurwongbah.
    It's a tough call and what is the best solution?? Buggered if I know but if you have the solution and are willing to back your words with actions there are a bunch of dedicated people in the association who will back you and help out.
    Last edited by shayned; 22-10-2007 at 08:37 AM.

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    I thoughts kids under age of 18 can fish for free. So long as the adults don't go fishing????

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    Quote Originally Posted by timddo View Post
    I thoughts kids under age of 18 can fish for free. So long as the adults don't go fishing????
    Exactly right, otherwise I don't believe the scheme would even be considered.

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    Just some clarification.

    - No SIP required under 18 years old
    - Only 1 permit for husband/wife
    - A permit is not required to access facilities at NPD
    - Bass, Golden Perch, Silver Perch, Mary River Cod & Saratoga in this lake have ALL been purchased by PRFMA members, they require on-going restocking.
    - A SIP introduction on Lake Samsonvale would see a much needed injection of fish (the fishery would get better)


    I can tell all & sundry that without the SIP being in place, there would now be many lakes without fish being stocked. So please consider this before complaining about it. The meat on that BBQ probably cost more than a weekly SIP. If its that big an issue to anyone personally, dont go fishing there or go to the river down stream for a BBQ.

    Cheers,

    fitzy..
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    Hey Guys
    To start with i did not start this to bash the PRFMA in any way. I applaud them for what they have done and as my dad was one of the original members and still is to this day i have been helping them out with many many things over the years whether its raising money or down at the working days at boral landing with the brush cutter.

    All i was wondering is what people felt about the idea of sips for NPD and i also wanted to gain more info on the topic from other people who share the same passion for fishing in general so thanks to everyone who posted info on this page its great to see that the NPD means so much to people and i think even if we all have different opinions on what should happen, if we all have this much passion about it then the dam will be safe for years to come

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    sip is agood thing i fish 99per cent of dams that have sip and they help restock the water , cant see a problem as ive been doing it for years,cheers bdowdy

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    does anyone have a sip website that can help me to understand it more.
    and i dont have anything against sip, they do a good job by the sounds of things.

    cam
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    Quote Originally Posted by cammy View Post
    does anyone have a sip website that can help me to understand it more.
    and i dont have anything against sip, they do a good job by the sounds of things.

    cam
    Here ya go Cam


    http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/1339.html

    Cheers,

    fitz..
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    thanx fitzy, i just had a look at the site and i didnt realize how many dams they have fixed up.

    cam
    Last edited by Cammy; 22-10-2007 at 09:55 PM.
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