V17 Haines Reno

[Doc and son]

G'day,

It's my first time on this site and I now have a sore back from being riveted to the stories.

My father bought a brand new Haines V17 runabout in 1968, and we have just dragged it out from a twenty-five year sleep under a mango tree.

The stringers have been cut out, the transom also needs replacing.

We would like to restore configuration in original shape, that is no pod, etc.

Also we do not want to paint the boat.

Our questions:

• We would be attacking the transom first, once complete we will run new stringers to meet the new transom, is this logic OK?
• My understanding is that we are best replacing the transom from the inside. What is the best method of doing this? Concern is that we will need to lift off top shell, with no stringers in floor is this OK?
• Lastly, I can not write in this space without giving credit to those who have made it possible.
• In particular, Ross and Bev I understand a site like this only works because of members input. So thank you for your effort and giving the whole human side to a fantastic story.

Luke
PS Pictures attached hopefully....

[Hamish73]

I know 2/3 of SFA about what you are doing, but this link should answer most of not all of your questions, good luck and keep mposting progress reports
http://www.shareaproject.com/pages/p...,p,152,00.html

[blaze]

IMO- cut the deck in front of the outboard well to do the transom, others will say go in from the rear. I feel the inside way ends up neater for an amuture and stronger.
I would also use hollow glass stringers, they are easier to fit and better become an integreral part of the hull.
transom, stringers floor in that order
cheers
blaze
Ps
I have a couple of threads on rebuilds also, dont know if they still come up in a search though

[gavsgonefishing]

Mate, I love restos like this.

Couple of silly q's before I can guide you. obviously you are competent with tools etc, otherwise you would not be attempting the project. Have you used glass before, or are you a novice, no probs with this, just the answers start at a different level.

[gavsgonefishing]

If you feel competent enough, I would be seperating the motor well combing from the hull and cutting it at where the side combings join the motoring well. Before you do that I would be cutting a peice of wood so it can be screwd at the top of the hull across the transomto the other side. It doesnt mater where as this will hold the shape of the boat before you remove the motor well top combing.

Why go to this trouble?, this is a lot easier to put in a full floor and join the stringers up with the new transom. As well as glassing the new transom in properly.

Before you cut anything spent time and cut out either cardboard or ply transom - this willl end up as the template for a new transom.

Go with Blazes suggestion, fibreglass stringers and beams are easy to make and will never rot again.

I may have done this before a few times.

Where are you?

[2DKnBJ]

Good luck with the rebuild .
I am pretty sure you will have all your questions answered and more.There have been some great threads on rebuilds over the years.
The Haines are like the Landrovers of the sea...They just keep goin'.

Cheers Dazza

[ColacGirl]

IMO- cut the deck in front of the outboard well to do the transom, others will say go in from the rear. I feel the inside way ends up neater for an amuture and stronger.

Cutting the deck in front of the well is Ross' preferred method too.
Can anyone link to a project that shows pics of this being done?

I have a couple of threads on rebuilds also, dont know if they still come up in a search though

Doing a search for - blaze rebuild - brings up 2 pages of rebuilds including the threads you started blaze. Unfortunately the pics are gone from the ones I looked at.

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Bev

[gavsgonefishing]

just did a search on my project, found the thread with no pics, I am pretty sure they will be in the puter, just ask which pics you want, from transom to making stringers, you name it

[Noelm]

OK I say this every rime someone starts on a project of this, be very sure when all the floor and stuff is cut out that the hull is supported very well, because when you stick it all back together again, if it has a "twist" or something, thats how it will stay, I have seen two disasters that required complete rebuilds a second time for that reason, it is not really all that hard, but it will take 5 times as long as you think, and twice as much cost, and be a very messy job for the Home handyman, but certainly not beyond the average person, also remember that when the floor is out, it is a good time to think about storage and fuel tanks and stuff.

[Noelm]

Even though it is a slightly bigger job, I reckon to remove the entire deck from the side joints, it is better and easier to put it all back together, and makes doing the reapirs a lot easier to get at, as well as being able to recoat the entire thing to get it all looking nice and new again when finished.

[Doc and son]

I know 2/3 of SFA about what you are doing, but this link should answer most of not all of your questions, good luck and keep mposting progress reports
http://www.shareaproject.com/pages/p...,p,152,00.html

Good site this one, have printed the tutorial and will keep on hand at jobsite. Cheers.

[Doc and son]

IMO- cut the deck in front of the outboard well to do the transom, others will say go in from the rear. I feel the inside way ends up neater for an amuture and stronger.
I would also use hollow glass stringers, they are easier to fit and better become an integreral part of the hull.
transom, stringers floor in that order
cheers
blaze
Ps
I have a couple of threads on rebuilds also, dont know if they still come up in a search though

Good to hear from you, Blaze. Not just a buff with tech tips, you can sniff out amateurs as well! We are certainly after a strong repair so the "from the inside" method looks like the one for us.
cheers
Luke
PS Might post a photo of deck at outboard well area to confirm cut line.

[Doc and son]

Mate, I love restos like this.

Couple of silly q's before I can guide you. obviously you are competent with tools etc, otherwise you would not be attempting the project. Have you used glass before, or are you a novice, no probs with this, just the answers start at a different level.

I own quite an assortment of tools, (all that I need from info I have read). I am a self employed fitter and turner (heavy industry). Have not done fiberglassing before and am keen to learn.
cheers
Luke
PS Have commercial premises for all messy activities...

[Doc and son]

If you feel competent enough, I would be seperating the motor well combing from the hull and cutting it at where the side combings join the motoring well. Before you do that I would be cutting a peice of wood so it can be screwd at the top of the hull across the transomto the other side. It doesnt mater where as this will hold the shape of the boat before you remove the motor well top combing.

Why go to this trouble?, this is a lot easier to put in a full floor and join the stringers up with the new transom. As well as glassing the new transom in properly.

Before you cut anything spent time and cut out either cardboard or ply transom - this willl end up as the template for a new transom.

Go with Blazes suggestion, fibreglass stringers and beams are easy to make and will never rot again.

I may have done this before a few times.

Where are you?

Quality help. Am excited about piccies especially of attaching the timber stay you mention also cut line at deck motor well and any info on constructing hollow glass stringers. Will certainly make profile template of transom before cutting.
cheers
Luke
ps we're in NQ

[Doc and son]

Good luck with the rebuild .
I am pretty sure you will have all your questions answered and more.There have been some great threads on rebuilds over the years.
The Haines are like the Landrovers of the sea...They just keep goin'.

Cheers Dazza

Don't you mean Landcruisers of the sea? You're right about the help, am doing my level best just keeping up! Have only just found this site and will probably balls up my correspondence a bit. But, hey there's no pass or fail when you're having a go!
Cheers
Luke