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    Question A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    It is a real shame that the AF I have grown to love is suffering with many negative comments attacking people who are trying to share a special catch or fishing moment

    I know this has been said and done a few times, but it really annoys me as I know of alot of members that just do not put posts up anymore due to the personal attacks and negative comments.

    The rules are the rules and if someone hasn't done anything wrong why do people try and spoil their moment/post. Sure different people have their own views but if you keep a legal size fish fine, if you release a legal fish fine and if you bag out fine.

    If people do not like posts on people catching fish then I have to suggest that the need to find another site

    I for one have learnt so much off this site now I troll through posts and just shake my head. I for one will try my best to post and share what little I know if it will help others as other long standing members have done for me.

    This is just my view and will probably get my head nailed to the wall - but I had to get it off my chest!
    Last edited by Great White; 23-09-2007 at 09:33 PM.
    Peter :cool:

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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    Regards

    mod5

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    Ausfish Platinum Member Wahoo's Avatar
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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    well said Peter
    i dont bother posting up on my days fishing for that reason, just in case the stripes on the macs are not the right color or running the right way had a great days fishing Friday, heap of trout and 2 macs, but i;ll keep them pics to myself

    Daz
    Last edited by Wahoo; 23-09-2007 at 09:05 PM.

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    Could not agree more with your comments. After all this site is for ALL FISHERMEN

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    I agree that criticism isnt too good, but it is a public forum and there is nothing wrong with a healthy debate. After all, it would be a boring world we live in if everybody agreed with eachother. For the sport of fishing to continue fish must breed at a higher rate that we kill them. Some people rate this higher than others, so the debate continues.

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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    Folks I think we are at the stage where myself and other Moderators will need to take some action however we cannot possibly read all posts and need your assistance.

    Every post has this symbol on it that you can click on to report a post.

    Please use it to report those posts of concern and action will be taken.

    Those members who are the cause of concern are hereby placed on notice that action including banning from the site will be taken for repeat offenders.
    Regards

    mod5

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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    I have no problem with people discussing the pro's and cons of CandR or their own conservation ideas.
    Just bloody well do it on your own thread and in the appropriate forum.
    The fishing reports section is one of my favourites until I read some unqualified negative personal opinion by some knob who trys to thrust there own idealistic morals down your throat totally disregarding the fact that the fisho has done nothing legally wrong..
    Reminds me of those jehovas witness types who turn up unannounced and think that somehow they are more "special" then the rest of us....

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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    mod5,

    I think you guys are going to add another colour to the member levels.
    So who wants to be the first to attain Ausfish GREEN Member status?

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    Ausfish Platinum Member roz's Avatar
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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    It's been a long time coming, and I'm so pleased Pete's drawing attention to the problem.

    I've seen it happen to people on many occasions, and have also been on the receiving end.

    It shouldn't matter if the fish is a 200gm whiting or a 47kg black jewie, if it's been caught on rod & reel or handline, it's the fishing that counts, and size does not matter.

    Onya Pete.
    GO THE CRUISER UTES!

    ....OH WHAT A FEELING!

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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    Quote Originally Posted by mod5 View Post
    Folks I think we are at the stage where myself and other Moderators will need to take some action however we cannot possibly read all posts and need your assistance.

    Every post has this symbol on it that you can click on to report a post.

    Please use it to report those posts of concern and action will be taken.

    Those members who are the cause of concern are hereby placed on notice that action including banning from the site will be taken for repeat offenders.
    Good move..Like to see some action on this, not just threats and talk. These morons are becoming bloody annoying.. "The biggest wilderness is between a greenies ears"
    Last edited by Elimbah 44; 24-09-2007 at 09:42 PM.

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    Used the link to jump to the jewie thread, and all the posts gone!! Understand why, but maybe a comment at the end and lock the thread. I don't like any censorship, even though it may seem to be justified.
    I read that thread last night, and was again annoyed at the personal attacks on the catcher. There are ways to start a healthy debat on the topic, but some people are just there to start a s*&tfight. It could have been quite productive, debating the breeding capabilities of larger jewies and whether they active reproducers, or viable fishing targets.
    I would like to say that posts like that one stop me from putting up catch reports, but complete lack of fish in the boat tend to draw me up short long before negative comments.

    Goddy

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    It is a crying shame Pete as i said on the concerened thread that fired all this up. I get pretty annoyed when someone catches and posts up a fish of a lifetime and then has a couple of idiots that tear there thread down. I have no problem catching and realeasing fish ,and no problem keeping a feed either like i did on the weekend.

    I have noticed Rhys hasn't posted a report either and i know he was out becuase he passed me at the South Passage on staurday(ya cant miss the Riptide) . Shame really as Rhys always gets a feed and gives good info in his reports so i know he can't be arsed posting and i know he would have caught fish. My bag out on schoolies isn't a biggy but the ausfisher that came with me didn't want to post a thread because of fear of the knockers on the site.Me i love an arguement that's constructive, but certainly not on someones report. If you have a problem or issue with what someone has caught then that's what the fishing chat section is for .

    I dont mind people being green but over the top green seems to be happening a lot. This is a fishing forum after all, i mean i dont go to a Peta website and tell them that putting sensors in an orange to see if the orange gets hurt during harvest time is the most ridiculous piece of crap i have ever heard. I keep my opinion of that to myself as it's my own opinion.

    In ending i would like to say that that fish was caught fair and square without breaking any rules. I'ts what the moral police make of it that really needs to stop. Because YOU dont think it was morally right to keep a fish of this size, that is YOUR opinion and YOU should keep it to your bloody self on his thread. Obviously the guy was over the moon but was soon pulled down because he never replied back on his own thread.

    Mod 5 has done the right thing and i'm glad he/she is taken action and is doing something about it. I mean look at the reports for the weekend there is bugger all of them really. And when you get them it's like it has to be a bag out, when a year ago if someone caught a 35cm bream and it was there only fish they would post it. It was more reading the yarn for me then what they caught.

    Anyway that's a world record post for me , enough of the crap and lets just get back to basics and our fishing without the moral brigade.

    Darryl.
    Last edited by Crestcutter; 24-09-2007 at 06:32 AM.

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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    I can understand both points of view. Respectfully, we all are entitled to air our opinions.

    I have read reports on this site where a fish hook has been impaled through a finger and they have continued fishing. I have read reports where they have fished in 3 metre seas and 20 knot winds, travelled 200 kms, not caught a fish... and endured it. I have read reports where they have fished all night in mozzie infested river systems and caught a great feed. I have read reports of boats capsizing and the hardships endured to survive.

    Yet, when an obviously unqualified, inappropriate remark is posted, it rocks your boat.

    Don't get me wrong Peter, I agree with you. However they are only words. "Sticks and stones......"

    LW

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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    here we go again. It just goes in cycles. A few new members join and want to have their say. Others get offended and say they will take their toys and go home.

    Surely we are all big enough to take a bit of criticism once in a while. FFS I have not seen anything that would bother me on my posts. As someone else said, it would be very boring if everyone agreed with everyone else. Sometimes I think that if I see another "great catch" response, I am going to be sick. I love the debates, positive and negative opinions. Some of these are a laugh. Personal attacks are banned and so they should be, but please do not censure the debates.

    Jeremy
    "The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
    (Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)

    Apathy is the enemy

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    Re: A Crying Shame/Whats going on?

    I just wished I could catch something good enough for somebody to try and take the micky out of me.

    Maybe we should use the level of 'interest' from greeny's as a success meter.
    The more knockers the better the catch
    We could call it the greenometer....the scale could start in the red (yeah, you got a fish...so what) and go to bright green on the 'u-beauty!!' end.

    It is a shame about the knockers but they'd fade out if we didn't bite.
    Maybe next time we should see what happens if everybody just not respond to the knockers??

    I do hope more people do put reports up though.
    It's been a but boring of late.
    And your dead right Pete....reading a report and all you see is bickering and that bickering is the reason why great fisherpersons don't put reports up leaves a lot to be desired.
    Last edited by finga; 24-09-2007 at 08:19 AM.
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