The Fishing Party Mounts Challenge Against AFLP Registration

[Adamy]

in the original letter of application approval it states that you can be a member of two different parties.
So, everyone that was a member of TFPQ send off another application to AFLP so there is no argument as to which party you belong to, then send a letter of resignation to TFP. has to worth $22 to be free of them..get the hell off their books & leave them to flounder in their own s**t

May be no need (yet) DR. TFP NSW is yet to be recognised as a federally registered political party. Lets wait and see what happens.

Adam

[hondaguy]

Does this mean the current sub branch AFLP or the previous AFPQ may become a registerd party and the original head party or AFP or is it AFPNSW will no longer or was ever registered with AEC? Alot of letters in there does it make sense to any one? What I am asking what party is in QLD and is it registered with the AEC, and is it a sub branch to any political party elsewhere in QLD. Or is this all subject to AGM on the 15 September?

[kc]

If you read Dereks post elsewhere on this board you can get some understanding of the absolute complexity of this whole issue and why it has taken so much time and effort.

In a nut shell, any grey areas will be sorted out with support of members at the AGM and The Fishing Party (Qld) will, I expect, no longer exist and the Australian Fishing & Lifestyle Party will be the new entity, at both State and Federal level.

Enough has been said about the attitude and actions of TFP NSW so I will not go there anymore. Time to just move on, despite those who would like to see confusion continue.

Members of TFPQ will become, with the support of a members majority vote, members of AFLP and a simple minute of meeting will surfice to deal with all loose ends at both the ECQ & if needed, the AEC.

This has all been a major distraction during an election year and just maybe, now that it is all but done, we can just get on with the job.

I share the sentiment that a fishing vote, whoever it is for, is of benifit but this whole bun fight started after we had made a written offer to TFP NSW to go our own way and stay in our own state and then they responded by both objecting to our registration & announcing they would choose candidates for Qld and run them in our state with no opportunity for input allowed.

Untenable.

This issue is over. TFPQ is now AFLP at a federal level, and will be the same at state level in 7 days time(subject to AGM approval) and we will just get on with business.

A messy situation best left behind. It might not suit some which support the TFP in NSW but it seems to suit the vast majority of Qld members.

KC

KC

[PinHead]

are you still a member of The Fishing Party, Shane...and will you be resigning from same prior to you standing for election as an independent???

[Shane Boese]

Earth to Bob:::: the vast majority, some 1100 of 1200 are on the membership published in variuos fishing magazines labeled The Fishing Party (Qld) and our original application was TFPQ......so.at least he is right about something.


KC

Below is a scaned copy of the Application form from the July 2004 QFM mag. It shows that if you signed this form you were joining The Fishing Party.


Regards Shane Boese

[Chris Ryan]

Below is a scaned copy of the Application form from the July 2004 QFM mag. It shows that if you signed this form you were joining The Fishing Party.


Regards Shane Boese

Hi Shane,

That form looks nothing like the TFPQ form that I downloaded from the old TFPQ site that I ended up not going to membership with because of the upheavel between all groups at the time. Could that be the form that the national or TFP (NSW) used?

I could be wrong here so apologies if I am, but maybe some others here could comment.

Cheers,
Chris

[Shane Boese]

Hi Shane,

That form looks nothing like the TFPQ form that I downloaded from the old TFPQ site that I ended up not going to membership with because of the upheavel between all groups at the time. Could that be the form that the national or TFP (NSW) used?

I could be wrong here so apologies if I am, but maybe some others here could comment.

Cheers,
Chris

Big_Puff_Daddy

Just so that every one is quite clear on this i have attached the other half of the page.

Regards Shane Boese

[Shane Boese]

are you still a member of The Fishing Party, Shane...and will you be resigning from same prior to you standing for election as an independent???

Pinhead

It is not my intention to resign my membership from The Fishing Party at this time, as I still believe that the fishing vote has been grossly underestimated politically for too long, and fishermen on the whole have underestimated their ability to make a difference. As far as I am aware, it is not an AEC requirement for an Independent to be dissassociated from Political Parties.

Regards,
Shane Boese

[Hunta]

Actually all the AFLP have to do is write to all members and advise them of the new name change and that they are no longer a part of TFP and ask them to change membership to the AFLP.

Good point you have raised there Shane. They may lose a few members through it, like yourself, but it should work.

I rekon that any member that the new party lost to that process is probably not a member the party wanted in the first place. Probably a good thing

[ratherbefishin]

Fishos All,
Firstly I will declare my hand openly. I am an active member of one of the major political parties (not an elected member nor candidate). I am also an active recreational fisho, I grew up in a bayside suburb and have fished here for almost 40 years.

I am dramatically dismayed at the splitting of the vote on this fishing issue. The radical greenies must be laughing histerically. I understand a few of the issues between the states and particularly that for the most part this is a state based issue (Yeah, yeah FNQ I know the GBR is a federal issue) but at the end of the day we are already a fringe issue and splitting the vote is crazy.
I don't really care what the party name is but we as fishos need unity of purpose. We need to be seen as a united front. There needs to be a single party with state branchs, able to represent our issues at all three levels of government.
There is an old saying in politics "DISUNITY IS DEATH"

I don't care which way it gets sorted out, JUST SORT IT OUT.
we need ONE PARTY.

Last but not least, Fisho's give your primary vote for whatever your branch of fishing political party we end up with, but ensure that your preferences flow. Take the time to find out about the other parties, particularly their stance on fishing rights, and ensure your preferences flow.

I am happy to declare that my own vote will go according to fishing rights initially then I will preference the party of which I am a member to ensure the eventual vote flows to them. What this achieves is that the primary vote will be recorded against fishing but the party I want to win will still get in. This sends a message to all the major parties because I can tell you, they do look at the primary vote distribution to see where the issues are.

regards all

[Shane Boese]

Fishos All,

at the end of the day we are already a fringe issue and splitting the vote is crazy.
I don't really care what the party name is but we as fishos need unity of purpose. We need to be seen as a united front. There needs to be a single party with state branchs, able to represent our issues at all three levels of government.
There is an old saying in politics "DISUNITY IS DEATH"

I don't care which way it gets sorted out, JUST SORT IT OUT.
we need ONE PARTY.

regards all

Richard,

I couldnt agree more, but unfortunately the way events have unfolded over the past 6 months, it seems inevitable that Queensland Fishers will have 2 Parties to represent their interests, one of which is Fishing Focussed and the other which has indicated interests in 4WDing, Horseriding etc with Fishing as just one arm of its primary focus. It is a shame that the Administrators of the Qld Branch of The Fishing Party felt the need to dissassociate themselves from the parent party which gave them life in the first place.

Regards
Shane Boese

[webby]

I may just have to join Pauline's Party, to save all the confusion as she seems to have only a one track mind ???
regards

[Tim_N]

So you have still got sour grapes Shane with KC and Co! It seems all you threads are an undermining campaign.
Who ever filled out and applied for the July 2004 form would now not be a member because the $22 gets you 3 years, hence expiry July 2007. Three years ago is a long time and plenty of water has passed under the bridge. Hell, 4 years ago Kevin Rudd went to a rauncy bucks night. Who cares!
In that 3 year time frame, QLD branches have been built, and collapsed, and a lot of behind the scenes relationships built etc etc etc
Who cares what a form looked like over 3 years ago, I doubt KC would have envisaged the rises and falls of what has transpired, but what you have dragged upo is insignificant and not helpful, to anyone. If as you say, you are for fishing, why the constant barrage against TFPQ and the work KC and Co have put in to it?
Can't you do something pro-active, rather than bitching about little insignificant things and trying to undermine things.
Move on man.
Tim

[mod5]

I may just have to join Pauline's Party, to save all the confusion as she seems to have only a one track mind ???
regards

You could get banned from Ausfish for that.

[PinHead]

You could get banned from Ausfish for that.

for mentioning the name ?? or considering voting for her??