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Are we with or against

View Poll Results: Should recreational anglers align with the pro's to fight access zoning issues?

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  • Align with the pro sector to fight the big issues

    75 63.56%
  • Keep seperate from the commercial lobby groups

    27 22.88%
  • Fight against the pro's to restrict their access

    10 8.47%
  • Don't know or don't care

    6 5.08%
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Thread: Are we with or against

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    Are we with or against

    With the recent government moves to possibly restrict rec fishing access to large areas of Moreton Bay should we be fighting a united front with the Commercial fishing sector or go it alone?

    I can see arguements for and against the various positions
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    Re: Are we with or against

    OH, I had a vote and saw that 100% of people agreed with me in the first option. Then I noticed that I was the only one that had voted..... DOH !

    Anyway, I look at it from the big picture and note that the commercial sector have influence and funding to fight for access, sustainability and zoning, so really, I don't think we have much option at this stage.

    Once we, as recreational fishoes, get off our collective backsides and fund and participate in a lifestyle lobby group, then and only then can we hope to have our own issues taken up with the commercial sector in relation to sustainability and access. All IMO......

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    Re: Are we with or against

    Its a difficult issue. If we climb in bed with the pros in order to use their powerful lobby group we could be at a disadvantage in argueing access for sensitive areas. It is possible low impact extractive rec fishing could be OK where dragging a trawler net across the bottom is never going to pass any EPA guidelines. We really have to organise a united rec fishing front
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    Ausfish Platinum Member DR's Avatar
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    Re: Are we with or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Horse View Post
    Its a difficult issue. If we climb in bed with the pros in order to use their powerful lobby group we could be at a disadvantage in argueing access for sensitive areas. It is possible low impact extractive rec fishing could be OK where dragging a trawler net across the bottom is never going to pass any EPA guidelines. We really have to organise a united rec fishing front

    no choice really, join them or lose it all... you only have to read all the negative crap on here when it comes to discussing anything to do with fishing closures etc.
    rec fishermen couldn't organise a shag in a brothel without a sh*Tfight we need the others to get this thing happening & if you think any differently we might as well all give up now as it will only get worse.. they have the money & the backing, rec fishers have squat, except for the huge ability to whinge when someone does nothing & still whinge when someone does ..
    just my personal opinion
    Last edited by DR; 26-08-2007 at 01:49 PM.

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    Re: Are we with or against

    United we stand: Divided we fall.

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    Re: Are we with or against

    It's got to be a stand together thing its way to big an issue to stand alone the old squeekiest wheel gets the oil thing its way bigger than a couple of people can deal with we really need to show a united front to stop some people from the government who probably have no interest in our opinions anyway....
    A bad days fishing has got to be better than any day at work......


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    Re: Are we with or against

    More numbers equals a louder voice that will increase our chances of having an impact IMO, I went option 1
    Peter :cool:

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    Re: Are we with or against

    I don't believe the pro's fish the way they do, for the sake of it. They know to fish this way is because they've been doing it for generations. The Government needs to give them a viable alternative, eg fish farms, better fishing techniques, etc.. Too little emphasis is being placed on real pollutants of the Bay like fertilisers, rubbish, commericial dregers, development on mangrove areas, etc. which have a bigger impact in the whole area. Why hasn't this been addressed by the EPA ... MONEY & VOTES ...equals ... POWER.

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    Ausfish Gold Member
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    Re: Are we with or against

    Has to be united. Don't see it making a lot of difference anyway. But I think any chance would come from standing together.

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    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: Are we with or against

    I reckon if we go united then we might just stand some sort of chance.

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    Ausfish Premium Member PinHead's Avatar
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    Re: Are we with or against

    it has to be united...however..the numbers of rec fishers will be small as a percentage of the whole. For the pros it is their livelihood..it is what pays the mortgage and puts food on the table. For the average once a month rec fisho, he does not really care as he worries about his job to pay his mortgage etc...the fishing is exactly that..recreation. They will accept any area to fish in as they don't usually catch many fish anyway.

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    Re: Are we with or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky_Phill View Post
    OH, I had a vote and saw that 100% of people agreed with me in the first option. Then I noticed that I was the only one that had voted..... DOH !

    Anyway, I look at it from the big picture and note that the commercial sector have influence and funding to fight for access, sustainability and zoning, so really, I don't think we have much option at this stage.

    Once we, as recreational fishoes, get off our collective backsides and fund and participate in a lifestyle lobby group, then and only then can we hope to have our own issues taken up with the commercial sector in relation to sustainability and access. All IMO......

    Cheers Phill

    i thought we already funded an organization that stands up for the rec fisho already,,,,,,,,,,,as far as the getting off our collective backsides,,,,,,,,,couldn't agree more

    choppa
    can it get any better??????????????,,,,,,,,,,,,,,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgG_TxEPaQE



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    Re: Are we with or against

    Quote Originally Posted by PinHead View Post
    it has to be united...however..the numbers of rec fishers will be small as a percentage of the whole. For the pros it is their livelihood..it is what pays the mortgage and puts food on the table. For the average once a month rec fisho, he does not really care as he worries about his job to pay his mortgage etc...the fishing is exactly that..recreation. They will accept any area to fish in as they don't usually catch many fish anyway.
    first part i agree with,,,,,,, we all have a habit of screaming blue murder and then sitting back when the heat is turned up,,,,, as per the recent meetings that were conducted around qld,,,,,,,bugger all showed for them in the rec fisho camp

    second part,,,,,,mmmmmmm wheres kingtin,,,, i'm sure he had some figures here on an old thread he held,,,,,,

    choppa
    can it get any better??????????????,,,,,,,,,,,,,,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgG_TxEPaQE



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    Re: Are we with or against

    Quote Originally Posted by charleville View Post
    United we stand: Divided we fall.
    That says it all..

    Mick

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    Re: Are we with or against

    United we stand: Divided we fall.
    we sure do
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