Ugly Muds Wanted

[Brett1907]

Hi guys, just looking into some serious offroad tyres. I can fit a maximum of 265/75/R16 on my 'Lux with 16x7 sunrasia rims.

I have a set of Pirelli scorpions on now for street/site use because the nightwatchman said the coopers were too scary in the wet. I said OK, but didn't tell her I would then need a dedicated set of offroad wheels/tyres.

I don't really know what brands to go with. You've got your major brand muddies like Bridgestone, BFG and Goodyear but I want something with lugs on the side walls for added traction in washouts and mud. I have been warned away from Mongrel tyres as they are monoforms so possibly not as strong as others. There are some swamper tyres in the correct sizes but I don't know what they are like.
Mickey Thompson only makes the MTZ in a small enough size.
Simex make the MP Trekker in a size to fit but again I don't know that much about them.

Pretty much the only restriction I am imposing myself is they must be DOT approved for driving on the road. This is in case of an accident driving to/from tracks/parks. Any help would be appreciated.

Brett

[Kleyny]

I'd go the coopers if they make them in your size.

[finding_time]

Brett

mate i got the cooper stt, now while there not the ugliest mudders they performed very well for me. I have throwen a fair bit of tough stuff there way band haven't managed to tear a lug of, andi'm yet to stake one as well. They perform well in the muds and have some side wall lugs , not as much as a simex though. They also go quite well on the road.

ian

[Lucky_Phill]

Have you had a squizzz at the Maxxis ?

Phill

[Wahoo]

Hi Brett
if you want a fair dinkim off road tyre cant really go past a maxxis mudzilla in that size or if ya wanto go bigger go the creepy
and if you want to have a bit of both ( black top N dirt ) i would go with the copper

Daz

[bastard]

Hi Brett
if you want a fair dinkim off road tyre cant really go past a maxxis mudzilla in that size or if ya wanto go bigger go the creepy
and if you want to have a bit of both ( black top N dirt ) i would go with the copper

Daz

Ive had mudzillars and now run creepies both a fantastic tyre,just not road legal.

[MY-TopEnder]

A Maxxis Bighorn will be available and about the uglies of the legal tyres you'll get. Similar in pattern to an MTZ, and Wrangler MTR but a bit more open in their block spacing. They have reasonable sidewall lugs.

The problem you'll find is that anything in a Radial (road legal) won't have as bigger sidewalls as a Bias Ply tyre.

Your best options will be the MTZ, Maxxis Bighorn, and Wrangler MTR.

Bastard has seen my Maxxis go in some rocky stuff and the survived.

[Brett1907]

Thanks for the info guys. It is looking like the MTZ, Maxxis Bighorn, and Wrangler MTR are to be looked at carefully. Goodyear have a sale on atm, buy 3 MTR's and get the 4th for $19.00. Looks good but I don't know if they are aggressive enough.

Saw a set of Federal Mudders for $200 each and they looked pretty ugly. Will look into the others again.

Brett

[GBC]

Radial claws

[Brett1907]

Problem with the Radial Calws is they come in 31" and jump to 33". Unless I can get an offset that will allow 33" tyres they are a no go.

Brett

[GBC]

what about split rims and 7.5, 8 or 8.5 r 16's?

Plenty of meat tyres there and they'll match your offset?

[Brett1907]

Have found out that 90-95 series Prado have 16x7" 15P offset. Maxxis Bighorns look like the go, I can get them in a 265/75/16 which gives 807mm/31.8" diameter. Or if I go a 17" rim I can get 275/70/17 with 818mm/32.2" diameter.

The Bighotns are the most aggressive tread I can get that will fit and still be approved for road use. Notice I didn't say the 'legal' word.

Brett

[GBC]

Brett,

Pretty sure there were two different offsets for the prado in those years - one was gxl and up, one was rv, world cup etc.
Make sure you get the right one - good luck.

The 'second hand tyre king' at slacks creek carries genuine rims if you're chasing.

C.J.

[Brett1907]

Yeah C.J. there wer 3 different offsets throughout that period. I'll be measuring the offset before any money is handed over. Tried that guy and he sold his last two on Friday. If I can't find them anywhere else I will try him again next week.

Brett

[Deestingray]

Have found out that 90-95 series Prado have 16x7" 15P offset. Maxxis Bighorns look like the go, I can get them in a 265/75/16 which gives 807mm/31.8" diameter. Or if I go a 17" rim I can get 275/70/17 with 818mm/32.2" diameter.

The Bighotns are the most aggressive tread I can get that will fit and still be approved for road use. Notice I didn't say the 'legal' word.

Brett

Just a word on the Bighorns, I have 2 mates that bought them, one set went on a hilux and they seem to be faring quite well, the other set went onto a Patrol GU Wagon and they are pretty stuffed and noisy after about 40,000 Kms. From what I gather, they do perform pretty good both in the mud and hillclimbs though. Probably not recommended for extended road use.