Scott,Originally Posted by disorderly
then maybe I shouldn't try and be polite
Anybody who thinks or wants to suggest a 5m alloy needs a 90 is an absolute fool!
I really don't take any offence at anybody who is that far out of touch with reality
Scott,
Anybody who thinks or wants to suggest a 5m alloy needs a 90 is an absolute fool!
I really don't take any offence at anybody who is that far out of touch with reality
Well thank's for your opinion Kerry considering you have that opinion of me and have never even met me that's a nice attitude you have and i think i've met people like you before acctually Thank's mate good onya Dan.........
You just have to face reality buddy and unfortuneately many these days wouldn't know what reality was as like you they generally wouldn't have a clue.
But as a suggestion if you or anybody wants to really make a suggestion then please feel free to do it here as quite frankly nobody benefits from wacks like you who suggest PM's should be used!. Got something to say then have the balls to say it here.
Last edited by Kerry; 27-07-2007 at 07:43 PM.
Well if the shoe fits and if you feel you have to wear it so be it!
Sounds like to have an americanized way of thinking as a 5m hull like that simply does not require that type of HP but then when did the yanks ever let reality get in the way of common sense?
Last edited by Kerry; 27-07-2007 at 07:51 PM.
It is interesting how these days there is this expectation of how much hp a boat needs. I guess in essence I am supporting Kerry's case.
As a kid, we deep started slalom skiers of reasonable weight behind a 16ft half cabin powered by a 65hp Merc (4 cylinder, not the sh!tty 3 cylinders).
These days people have this idea in their head that they require much more hp than in years gone by. In fact, one of the Chrysler Marine brochures form the 70's shows a Chrysler hull, with a Chrysler 50hp outboard towing a slalom skier. Marketing? Possibly, but its easily doable.
A good mate of mine who was the Mercury National Service Manager in the 50's/60's when International Marine (Caribbean) had the Mewrcury distribution rights showed me photos of them skiing in the Yarra River in a timber boat with an early early 50hp Merc. They were slalom skiing also.
And to really prove a point, International Marine in the 50's decided to show how powerful Mercury outboards were and they had Savage build them a lightweight 10ft tinny. They fitted a 4hp Merc to it with a tiller extension to mount the driver amidships. He was a lightweight himself and his girlfriend was out the back on trick skis and was a very lightweight too. However, the 4hp deep started her and she skied behind the rig in the Moomba parade. So its factual and a matter of public record......
A more current example would be a 15ft deep vee and weighty hull I restored about 6 yrs back that had a 75 Chrysler fitted to it (ok, so an obvious advantage with the Chrysler since they sh!t on the oppositions equivalent engines). We skied behind that with 200kg in the boat (2 persons and equipment) and an 85kg skier on the back. Deep start too, with no drama getting him up.
Cheers
A more current example would be a 15ft deep vee and weighty hull I restored about 6 yrs back that had a 75 Chrysler fitted to it (ok, so an obvious advantage with the Chrysler since they sh!t on the oppositions equivalent engines). We skied behind that with 200kg in the boat (2 persons and equipment) and an 85kg skier on the back. Deep start too, with no drama getting him up.
BM n kerry if ya like
BM now take that same boat out in the open waters , 2.5 -3m swell blowing 20 - 25 knts with the 4 PPL in the back bit of water in the builge and so on,
i know exxxxactly what motor should be on the back,
im not saying to go out in them conditions, but it will happen more than once comming home
I have 5m pressed alloy with '03 90hp carby 2st with 17" prop. More power than the average fisho needs. 3 guys, 6 scuba tanks, weight belts, esky with drinks, food and 120l fuel and still has plenty left in the bay. Plenty of response in the south passage bar and outside in sloppy condition. Holds on the plane under 3000rpm for the rough days and uses about 12l per hour of petrol. Honestly if you are in shelter waters or have a light load a 75hp is plenty and a high tech 60 would suffice. Set the boat up properly and prop it right for your every day use as I most real fisherman only travel at 4200rpm for fuel economy. Cheaper purchase price equals more fishing trips to me. My experience and opinion only. Hope you have many a happy trip with whatever you choose
WTF are some people on?....BM n kerry if ya like
BM now take that same boat out in the open waters , 2.5 -3m swell blowing 20 - 25 knts with the 4 PPL in the back bit of water in the builge and so on,
A mate of mine has a 5.1 alleycraft cuddy powered by a 2st 75 merc and is very happy with its performance.
Cheers,
Wags
Wahoo........
A 3mtr ocean swell is nothing if it is not breaking. Breaking waves mean something yes, but swell not really, the boat rises and falls over them without issue. Unless you have a different swell in QLD???????
However, 4 people (or 5 going by your post of "4 PPL in the back" assuming a driver also) in a 15ft boat (which was my example that you then used) is overloaded end of story. Operator intelligence would have to be questioned at this point.
To often a real "redneck" approach seems to be applied to boating and attitudes and opinions really need to be modified and updated so that boating is a safer activity for all concerned.
Cheers
I trust all this has been helpful Breamaster. What is the recommended and maximum rated HP suggested by the boat builder? Pick either or anywhere in between and you won't go wrong. Can I suggest the boatbuilder knows what their boat needs better than any of us??????
Last edited by reidy_g; 28-07-2007 at 07:04 AM.
I have a seajay535 magnum converted to a cc it has a 60 4stroke merc on the back and i get 60 klmhr at full revs .i am very happy with the setup and most days on the bay and outside full throttle isnt an option unless its nice and calm.
This is almost like fronting up to an AA meeting.
OK....I'll just spit it out,
I run a 90 on a 4.8 alloy.
Bear with me for a bit as I'm choking up here as I realise the error of my ways and starting to shed some serious tears over not having this rig passed before Kerry to gain his authorisation and approval, ....................hopefully that will pass before I run out of tissues.
In fact the tears are getting thicker as I realise that I'm seriously considering going to the new 135 injected tohy on the same boat soon,
Oh, deary me...how will I ever hold my head up in public again...pass some more tissues....
Last edited by Dicko; 28-07-2007 at 02:25 PM.
Thanks alot for all the feedback guys. Its been really helpful in making the decision.
CHeers
More tissues coming up, you obviously have it real bad
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