just wondering if anyone has had or herd of any probs with either of these reels?
just wondering if anyone has had or herd of any probs with either of these reels?
There are 2 major problems with the z-6500 dogfighter!
1 I havn,t saved enough money to buy one!
2 Finding fish tough enough to justify buying one!
If I think I,m a chance of getting onto fish that need 30kg drag and a reel that holds 400mtres of 60lb on any sort of a regular basis, I,m prepared to sell a kidney to buy one!!
cheers
I am about to buy a dogfight today, I have chosen the dogfight simply because I have never had a problem with any of my Daiwa gear. I have Certate 4000's and bought a new Certate hyper custom 4000 a short while ago. I was so impressed with it that it had to have a bigger brother for bigger fish.
I will let you know how it goes when I have taken it for a test run.
The hyper custom got a test run over the weekend on The S10 and I was more than happy with the 8 Longtail. There is a post in estuary section with the piccies.
You won't be disappointed if you save for either of these reels.
Eric&Deb
hey mate, you're talking about the top of the line threadies from both daiwa and shimano.
The stella is relatively faultless, as are the dogfights. The only thing with the dogfights are their weight.
You have probably opened a can of worms in the shimano vs daiwa debate. Its like comparing a mercedes with a bmw. Both unreal reels, neither will let you down
Matt
was asking as have herd a few rummors but not from anyone who had used or tested one. am doing a nomad charter and wanted to know if i should be doing anything to the reels im taking.
Nomad supply Stella 10000 and 20000 as part of their package, but a lot of customers take their own reels, spare spools and line as well. The guys chasing the really big GTs and Doggies will upgrade their drag washers on their Saltigas [Dogfight], most of the regulars will use Stellas and Saltigas.
Lumox, what trip are you on?
Re: stella / dogfight problems? Answer: No Problems
Last edited by GPB; 06-07-2007 at 01:12 PM.
What is the advantage of those giant coffee grinders over a good quality overhead costing less than half the price?Avet,Calcutta 700.Penn Torque etc.
Specialist/heavy popper fishing is done exclusively with big threadlines because they are much easier to cast large distances very quickly. I personally, find them easier and more comfortable to go through the various motions of working large poppers and stickbaits.Originally Posted by spinyeel
Another reason is that large overheads require you to manually guide the line onto the spool - you can't afford the time or make any fumbles during popper fishing to do this - you need to be switched on fulltime.
Hope that helps.
Last edited by Luke Wyrsta; 06-07-2007 at 07:11 PM.
In HD jigging the Spin reel is much easier to control and is more balanced by not having the reel on top of the rod [IMO], some people prefer the overheads but a majority use spin reels and nearly always Stella 20000s and Saltiga Expeditions, the Saltiga Dogfight and the Stella 10000 are more popping type reels with their 6:1 high speed ratio although they can be used in jigging and vise verse.
I have no doubt about the quality and fish fighting power of these big spinners,I saw a mate nail some respectable GTs and an angry 3 metre Whaler on a Stella 20000 up in Weipa,but they remind me of a primitive winch,and I find overheads much lighter, and on the right rod perfectly balanced.Most guys that take the time to master overheads rarely use spinners except in ultra light situations.Saying that fast casting is easier on a spinner is true in the case of overhead impaired anglers,and therin lies the attraction of these" i need a quick fix" reels. IMO.
I personally use overheads more than spinning reels in general fishing, Tekotas, Accurate 665XH, TLD 25s, TLD 2 speeds, Tynos, Tiagras and a few more for bottom fishing, trolling and game fishing, but for jigging 300-500gm jigs in 80-100m of water or long casting 150-200gm poppers and stick baits on 8ft rods with 80lb braid, give me an eggbeater any day.
The Accurate 665XH was my first jigging reel many years ago, until I tried a Stella, it is now my favorite reel for chasing Red Emperor.
Horses for courses
Last edited by GPB; 07-07-2007 at 09:51 AM.
I understand what you are saying but there is absolutely no place for overheads in heavy popping. Try it and it will be obvious.
As for jigging, both can be used - up to personal preference. In this area i used both threadline and overhead.
If you are going on NOMAD, don't worry about taking any gear, we abused their rods and reels to the max, no signs of breaking.
NOMAD only runs good gear, with tackle, forget the advertising material, they change ideas all the time, turn up with a credit card and use tackle on loose replace basis.
Fantastic Trip with the best crew around
Al
alan tsv what trip did u go on ? any tips info memories would be great.
gpb im going to marion reef in may next year with my old man organised through duncan at fish head.
We went to Marion Reef. Don’t worry about windons or buying the starter bag. Turn up with a credit card. It is hard to buy the right tackle when you don’t know what is bitting. The prices they charge for tackle are very good. They do not try to rip you off. NOMAD is 150% professional and it is up there as the best trip of a lifetime. We will be going again. Call NOMAD and talk to the crew they are only interested in giving you the best. Value for Money. Appears like a lot, but when you see the facilities and food, mate, worth every cent. If you want to call me for more info Mobile 0427 467 541 Cheers Alan
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