when taking me tinny within 2 nm of shore out of Mooloolaba what saftey gear do I req to carry. Can not determine wether it's classed as partially smooth or open water.
when taking me tinny within 2 nm of shore out of Mooloolaba what saftey gear do I req to carry. Can not determine wether it's classed as partially smooth or open water.
Hows it going mate
It is classed as open waters but you are not required to carry an epirb until you are 2nm out
Russ
Last edited by russ81; 26-06-2007 at 05:07 PM.
WHy not just buy one, end of indecision. If you drift outside 2nm what happens? small investment to save a life IMHO.
Mike
Agree ,just buy one.
If you have a breakdown and are blown offshore it would be handy.
Regards
seabug
IMHo if you go offshore, even only 2nm, and you dont have an eprib, then you are stupid......there i said it......... harsh but true IMHO
Mike
Yep, once you've passed out of the Mooloolaba breakwater, across the Caloundra bar, or north of a line between Skirmish Pt and Comby Pt, you're in open water. Then if you go more than 2NM you need an EPIRB.
check Greg P's link for the other required safety gear, or pm me and I'll list them for you.
regards
Steve
as mike said, you are stupid ,,,, sid
Stupid why? Because you are breaking the law, or because you are risking your life?Originally Posted by Marlin_Mike
Mooloolaba is one of the busiest ports in SEQ, and a tinny will only be going out on a good day, less that 2nm at that. EPIRBs will take quite some time to initiate a rescue - locate the beacon, confirm it is not a false alarm, send a S&R team etc. IMHO, a marine radio and flares are much more appropriate safety equipment for close to shore work, and laws aside, I would definitely say these are much more important and better value for your money than an EPIRB.
All the same, I would still advise you to get one if you can afford it (after the radio LOL). There ain't much reef to fish within 2 nm of the short at Mooloolaba, although in summer there should be plenty of tuna close in. The Gneerings are about 7 km and Murphies 12 km. The temptation to go further will be strong on a good day.
Jeremy
Last edited by Jeremy; 27-06-2007 at 06:55 AM. Reason: the aliens told me to do it
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
Both reasons Jeremy. But my point being, that on a good day temptation WILL win and you slowly nudge a bit wider and a bit wider. I just believe if you go over a bar you should have one. 2 nm doesnt sound much but in a distress situation its HUGE
Mike
Getting someone to find you in a tinny in close ain't hard but try doing it while the boats sunk also radios and flares don't work to good under water either, you'll find 2 nm is very far if you had to swim it, i know i'd rather be swimming with a epirb tied to me thats for sure.
Now that I've established that is indeed open waters, I will carry all the recomended saftey gear, except an epirb as I only intend to go less than 1nm off Moolooolaba on a good day when there will be plenty of traffic. Some of the places that have fished well for me a few years back were in easy reach of moololaba and these included Old Woman Is. and the coffe rock patches out from Pt cartwrite and Alex , as well as the bay for Mac and tuna all within a stones throw of the beach and port.
I will only venture out there on a good day and do not exept to go out more than 3-4 times. I will have flares and other saftey gear req by law, and will use my mobile phone for com's. For what I intend to do and the mesures I take, I should not think this puts me in the foolish class. Not all of us have the big bucks but as long as we relise our limits of ourselves and our craft and saftey gear we shall not be classed as stupid.
noboat, keep in mind the limitations of a mobile phone, range, battery life, non waterproof and you're only able to call one person at a time. Still, they're better than no comms at all.
emergency number to use with mobiles is "112".
boating safety is about risk management, and making a plan to meet potential risks, sounds like you've thought thru risks you may experience.
happy and safe boating
Steve
Not to mention an EPIRB has its own power supply desighned to work in the harsh Marine environment, complete with lanyard so it can be attached to you that works best from the water plane, often with a strobe light and if its a 406 then they will also know whom you are if you have given the correct details to AMSA when buying or updating your set and details. Sometimes a radio can be a curse in the hands of an inexperienced person.... the number of times I have gone looking for a vessel that is no where near its reported possition I couldnt count on all my fingers and tows. Just recently I was reading somewhere that the water police asked a person with a radio to activate their EPIRB when they could not be found in their reported possition even after activating their flares.... found them only by tracking t6he EPIRB.... But I love Radios, dont get me wrong, but to a certain extent 2 different needs and uses.... both acheiving the same result if time permits. (But an EPIRB only has 1 use, a Radio has many)
Give me an EPIRB any day if I am in serious strife, give me a VHF radio any day before it reaches that stage particularly if I am a prudent mariner.
I think the use of the word stupid was pretty harsh in my humble opinion when noboat had stated "within 2 nm of shore" and was asking to clarify his legal requirements. Anyone going further than 2nm is certainly unwise and failing to meet their legal commitments.
Anyway noboat, thanks for asking a good question, it reminds all others about their own curcumstances.
Kind Regards
Lloyd
Gelsec and Marlin, you both make lots of very good points as always. I dont know either of your backgrounds but my guess is you both have given or are giving time as VMR or Coastguard members and have also probably worked in the Maritime industry in a fulltime professional capacity. I always enjoy your posts.
Just expanding on the "112" mobile thing for those whom wonder why you should use it. If you attempt to make a 000 call, you only can transmitt through mobile phone repeaters connected to your service provider. If their are none in your area, the phone doesnt get out. If you ring 112 it will conect to ANYONES network, irrespective of wether it is a Telstra, Optus, Hutchesons, Virgin or whatever repeater.... the chances of being able to ring 1 PERSON at a time are far greater.... VHF on 25 watts in good weather on a weekend in the Bay, 10,000 people may get your call.... the odds of quick help improve just a smidgeon :-)
Cheers Lloyd
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