Is The TFPQ ???

[Wally]

You may be right Derek, but as KC has pointed out mate, they need money and it ain't going to come from recreational fisherman or industry,

Wally

[Tim_N]

The money is going to come from votes.
If TFPQ can gain enough votes, then it will gain government funding. Easy really.
There is no use bitching about what if's and maybe's, if you really want to help, make sure that TFPQ gets your vote, then you will see a massive difference.
Tim

[Chris Ryan]

Well some good ideas there from all and it is quite obvious each individual has a slightly differing point of view. IMO, money is only one issue to face, however my question is do you think that is there was more involvement from all to the Party and what it stands for that may also attract funding from other areas other than Departmental grants?

I am sure if that if the livlihood of tackle shops, marine mechanics etc was going to be impacted (like we saw up in Nth Qld) that even a small donation to a group fighting for them would be viable?

Like I said, this is my personal view, but to me it just seems so logical.

[Adamy]

I think your waffling Wally. Like I said ............. TFPQ is a Political Party and no State Govt is going to collect a tax and allow it to be given to another Political Party.

Derek is absolutely correct (Oh and welcome back Derek - long time no "see"... hope you havent been crook or something). There are no Govt grants available to political parties - especially those that oppose the current institutions.

Tim N is partially correct... money does come from votes - but only POST election, the Parties get a small rebate (only if they garner more than about 4% of the primary)- something like $1.35 for each vote collected (maybe different now - but its not much) and typically this money doesnt cover the cost of contesting the election.

So how do the greenie parties and labor get the cash? Well the Greenies have many different fronts - all collecting cash - some of them are research arms - which provide the biased "scientific evidence" we hear so much about - through their research arms they obtain the Grants. They also effectively fragment themselves - targeting different environment sectors - such as AMCS - for the marine environment, Wildlife society - the guys with the koala suits - apparently preserving wildlife, Greenpeace - environment etc... you get the picture

Some of these orgs are set up as Charities... so funds are tax deductible and the org doesnt have to file returns - doesnt even have to declare where they get their money from or how much.

Labor of course has the unions... plenty of cash and influence there. Dont know about the libs... think they put their cap out to business.

The point is they all have their access to cash - different arms which then "donate" to the party... TFPQ doesnt have that and thats the problem and the people which benefit most from the work TFPQ does are reluctant to fork out the dough. Our industry in very fragmented and worse divided.

Unfortunately TFPQ has to chase the money from big business - its all very nice to say that small tackle shops can come up with a few bucks - but the time and effort to chase the $100 here and there makes it not worth the while - Small tackle shop owners are doing it just as tough as you and I.

Big business - boat manufacturers - outboard makers, 4WD makers and sellers etc are the guys who will suffer most if the industry goes down the gurgler and the guys that should pay up.

Maybe... we should...as a body of fishers - patronise those businesses who support TFPQ - I dont think its morally right to ask people to boycott certain businesses (anyway... as yet - there is no list as such of businesses who support the party) but maybe thats one way we can show our support for TFPQ? I dont know how it would work and it might be a totally silly suggestion. But if I had a choice between say two outboards same stuff just one company supported TFPQ and another didnt - then I'd choose the TFPQ supporter.

The greenies do it all the time support "green" companies - even the bronco's do it; ask the members to support the businesses that support them... in the paper I see businesses offering discounts to bronco players and supporters.

Why cant we do the same.... I dont know - just an idea!

Next time we are buying a big ticket fishing/boating 4WD type item - ask them do you support TFPQ?

not a perfect idea - just an idea.

Cheers,

Adam

[BAT]

Derek is absolutely correct (Oh and welcome back Derek - long time no "see"... hope you havent been crook or something). There are no Govt grants available to political parties - especially those that oppose the current institutions.

Tim N is partially correct... money does come from votes - but only POST election, the Parties get a small rebate (only if they garner more than about 4% of the primary)- something like $1.35 for each vote collected (maybe different now - but its not much) and typically this money doesnt cover the cost of contesting the election.

So how do the greenie parties and labor get the cash? Well the Greenies have many different fronts - all collecting cash - some of them are research arms - which provide the biased "scientific evidence" we hear so much about - through their research arms they obtain the Grants. They also effectively fragment themselves - targeting different environment sectors - such as AMCS - for the marine environment, Wildlife society - the guys with the koala suits - apparently preserving wildlife, Greenpeace - environment etc... you get the picture

Some of these orgs are set up as Charities... so funds are tax deductible and the org doesnt have to file returns - doesnt even have to declare where they get their money from or how much.

Labor of course has the unions... plenty of cash and influence there. Dont know about the libs... think they put their cap out to business.

The point is they all have their access to cash - different arms which then "donate" to the party... TFPQ doesnt have that and thats the problem and the people which benefit most from the work TFPQ does are reluctant to fork out the dough. Our industry in very fragmented and worse divided.

Unfortunately TFPQ has to chase the money from big business - its all very nice to say that small tackle shops can come up with a few bucks - but the time and effort to chase the $100 here and there makes it not worth the while - Small tackle shop owners are doing it just as tough as you and I.

Big business - boat manufacturers - outboard makers, 4WD makers and sellers etc are the guys who will suffer most if the industry goes down the gurgler and the guys that should pay up.

Maybe... we should...as a body of fishers - patronise those businesses who support TFPQ - I dont think its morally right to ask people to boycott certain businesses (anyway... as yet - there is no list as such of businesses who support the party) but maybe thats one way we can show our support for TFPQ? I dont know how it would work and it might be a totally silly suggestion. But if I had a choice between say two outboards same stuff just one company supported TFPQ and another didnt - then I'd choose the TFPQ supporter.

The greenies do it all the time support "green" companies - even the bronco's do it; ask the members to support the businesses that support them... in the paper I see businesses offering discounts to bronco players and supporters.

Why cant we do the same.... I dont know - just an idea!

Next time we are buying a big ticket fishing/boating 4WD type item - ask them do you support TFPQ?

not a perfect idea - just an idea.

Cheers,

Adam

Hi Adam

While I admire your grasp of politic's, the same cannot be said for you when it comes to common sense!. Some of the rubbish you have come out with in regards to breeding snapper is immature & down right dumb!!!!!

Grow up before your shown up...

Cheer's BAT.

[Great White]

Hi Adam

While I admire your grasp of politic's, the same cannot be said for you when it comes to common sense!. Some of the rubbish you have come out with in regards to breeding snapper is immature & down right dumb!!!!!

Grow up before your shown up...

Cheer's BAT.

BAT !!!!!


POT KETTLE BLACK !

I am sure you have had your share of dumb things to say like in every post If you were haflf the bloke Adam was people may even start to like you


Another Great White Joke

[Adamy]

Thanks Pete,

This post missed me totally - I have a bit of a filter for Bats comments - he has a tiny habit of relating unrelated posts - even ones from many months before and suddenly bringing them up (in a totally different section of the boards) - often in half sentences without any contextual clues so as to leave you guessing whats in his tiny mind!!

So to the extent he thinks I'm immature and downright dumb - then he's probably correct... well at least about the immature part leastwise!!

Grow up before your shown up...

I do like the threats though or was it a challenge? I'm totally confused!!

Some of the rubbish you have come out with in regards to breeding snapper is immature & down right dumb!!!!!

Now if I can slightly rearrange his words to make a more blanket statement - which makes more sense given any context....

Some of the rubbish you have come out with is immature & down right dumb!!!!!

Ahh YES!! That makes me feel better - I can totally believe that now!! however - i do prefer stoopid (nee stupid) to "dumb" because dumb is a state of being incapable of speech whereas "stupid" implies a lack or blockage of cognitive thought process... which is probably more apt...

Cheers,

Adam