The E-tec debate pros and cons

[Luke G]

I got that E-tec DVD from the latest trialer boat. It's easy to see how necomes get sucked it. I recall one test on 3 bay boats, one with an E-tec and two more with 4 stoke yamaha and mecurys. They staged it so the boat would porpouse with the heavier 4 strokes by trimming them right up. Quite funny really.

Cheers

[disorderly]

E-tec obsession can only be cured with a dose of Mercury

I'll pay that,mercury16.
Pretty humorous one liner,indeed

However the correct answer is:-

ETEC OBSESSION can only be truly cured with the purchase of an ETEC
The envy, jealousy and bigotry disappears immediately

Scott

[Spaniard_King]

you know I love it when people put up arguments quoting some pro has x thousand hours on his engine so it must be good.

I cant see how this relates to %99 of rec boaters. Do they actually beleive their new engine will age and last like the guy with thousands of hours in a short time concidering most rec boaties struggle to run up 100hrs a year.. hmm 2000 in 2 years.. preserve that one for 18 more years and then compare them.

Garry

[disorderly]

you know I love it when people put up arguments quoting some pro has x thousand hours on his engine so it must be good.

I cant see how this relates to %99 of rec boaters. Do they actually beleive their new engine will age and last like the guy with thousands of hours in a short time concidering most rec boaties struggle to run up 100hrs a year.. hmm 2000 in 2 years.. preserve that one for 18 more years and then compare them.

Garry

You are spot on Gary.
Nobody really knows how these new motors will hold up after years of recreational use.They just havent been around long enough yet for this to be determined.

But this debate is going off the rails a bit I think.
I've read that it's not valid to give a report on a motor because its only done a handful of hours in a recreational environment.
Then I read that its also not valid to use examples of commercial operators and their experiences after thousands of hours because it differs from a recreational environment.

So Gary and Ian,besides heresay,what yardstick other than the experience of those that actually own and use these new motors can we use to answer the initial question.

What are the pro's and con's of the E-Tec?.



Scott

[Spaniard_King]

Scott,

do as much research on the engine as possible, I call it making an informed decision IMO most people are usually driven by budget more than quality.

A good place to start is here http://www.marineengine.com/cgi-bin/discus/discus.cgi

cheers

Garry

[disorderly]

You've lost me Garry,
Was there a particular thread you were referring to ?
And I doubt you would be getting the new boat you are if you were more driven by budget than quality,thats IMHO.

Cheers Scott

[Spaniard_King]

Scott,

I was simply pointing you in the general direction of a place to start your engine research ie if theres a problem it usually shows up on a US forum so if you would like to spend the time, you could form an unbiased opinion on any particular engine.

I am not sure if you are directing the budget thing directly at me or not but most people will choose the cheaper option on an engine unless they can justify the expense.

Sorry I just re read your post... my new boat is totally budget driven

Garry

[Black_Rat]

I'd buy a 2 stroke mower before I'd buy a 4 stroke

Not that I've mowed a lawn lately

[finding_time]

Very happy with my motors atm, but i'm sure i would be very happy with suski's, merc's, evinrudes and honda's as well , in fact it matters little to me what brand of motor i would use, just as long as it's reliable

that what actually makes me laugh so much at you E-tec guys! It seems your trying to prove something every time you talk about your motors. I never really talked about my motors, but they have been round for years and many have logged over 4000 hrs , so no need to talk them up i guess

Ian





Samson

That's great mate! i really dont have a problem with e-tecs at all it's just some owners. Good to hear there logging good hrs though you never know when i'l be looking for new outboards., cant see myself going back to a engine that requires a oil bottle though, enjoy the 1 less thing to worry about i guess.

Ian

This is a earlier post Disorderly i think you must have missed it!! I dont have any e-tec syndrome in fact a stated above i have nothing against E-tecs at all is just that some poeple have the same discussions over and over again , if anything i have e-tec over exposure syndrome!!! And 2 post ago you wanted Garry and myself to list pros, and con's again! Mate it has been done to death !!

Ian

[disorderly]

Ian,

Sorry if any offense was caused by my making light of your mental condition.Actually thought it was a joke made by the bomber.
By the way I dont believe I'm a zealot.
Nowhere, have I in seriousness,claimed that the Etec is any better than any other motor or actually a good motor at all.(only related my particular limited experience with the motor).
As you are aware,however,the topic comes up frequently and being a owner of one I add my two bobs worth and enjoy reading about the experiences of other owners and people interested in them.
I also enjoy a laugh and a bit of a joke about them.
However I cant understand why blokes like yourself get on to threads like this and with nothing at all constructive to offer moan and belittle owners of this particular engine and basically sh!t stir.
Dont you also find this a bit odd?
Mate,if you dont want to be annoyed by people and their E-Tec's maybe you should try and restrain yourself from causing offense by butting in on a thread that you know very little or nothing about.
Once again I apologize if I caused offence about your condition.
Regards
Scott

[Mercury16]

Now everyome, i think this discussion has gone on for long enough and is starting to get a bit..... well violent.
In the end everyone has there own favourite outboard and there is no need to tease others about there favorite one, sure its good to have a laugh about them and a friendly joke every now and then but in this thread i think we should now take it down a notch,
Dont you think?

Peter

[GBC]

I've got an opti - I think its great.


P.S. DISLEXICS UNTIE

Couldn't resist it.

[sea raider]

Now everyome, i think this discussion has gone on for long enough and is starting to get a bit..... well violent.
In the end everyone has there own favourite outboard and there is no need to tease others about there favorite one, sure its good to have a laugh about them and a friendly joke every now and then but in this thread i think we should now take it down a notch,
Dont you think?

Peter

Hey, you think this is getting violent, you should have been around when Kopey, Big_Unit, Ron 173, myself and a couple of others were going for it, they ended up deleting the whole thread and people were being red carded all over the place.

They were the days!!!!

Ian,

Sorry if any offense was caused by my making light of your mental condition.Actually thought it was a joke made by the bomber.
By the way I dont believe I'm a zealot.
Nowhere, have I in seriousness,claimed that the Etec is any better than any other motor or actually a good motor at all.(only related my particular limited experience with the motor).
As you are aware,however,the topic comes up frequently and being a owner of one I add my two bobs worth and enjoy reading about the experiences of other owners and people interested in them.
I also enjoy a laugh and a bit of a joke about them.
However I cant understand why blokes like yourself get on to threads like this and with nothing at all constructive to offer moan and belittle owners of this particular engine and basically sh!t stir.
Dont you also find this a bit odd?
Mate,if you dont want to be annoyed by people and their E-Tec's maybe you should try and restrain yourself from causing offense by butting in on a thread that you know very little or nothing about.
Once again I apologize if I caused offence about your condition.
Regards
Scott

Well said Scott, my sentiments exactly.

Cheers

Geoff

[Wahoo]

found this very intersting

Anything in production now (incl the new 300/200) gets a big boost in gas mileage.

>From their website:

Improvements to the power train give the Verado line world class fuel efficiency. Mercury tests show the new 150 hp Verado consumes 22 percent less fuel at wide open throttle and 18 percent less fuel on average at cruise speed than the 150 hp Verado introduced in 2005. In comparison to the competition, the new 150 hp Verado consumes up to 20 percent less fuel through the power band than the 150 hp Yamaha, up to 23 percent less than the 150 hp Suzuki and up to 40 percent less than the 150 hp Evinrude E-Tec.

The enhanced power train features forged pistons, precision machined oil dams, eccentric grooved crankshaft main bearings, an all-new intake cam profile, and a new PCM (power control module) calibration.

whole article:
http://northamerica.mercurymarine.com/newsandevents/newsdetail.php?...

[manchild]

you know I love it when people put up arguments quoting some pro has x thousand hours on his engine so it must be good.

I cant see how this relates to %99 of rec boaters. Do they actually beleive their new engine will age and last like the guy with thousands of hours in a short time concidering most rec boaties struggle to run up 100hrs a year.. hmm 2000 in 2 years.. preserve that one for 18 more years and then compare them.

Garry

Thanks for a poke at me ,maybe i can explain myself better.He is not some pro ,but a good family friends for some 40 odd years.He was around outboards and boats all his life,hence i take his advice over 'some " stranger on a internet forum.Because hes getting a couple of engines every 2-3 years from a same dealer hes getting prices most of us dreamin of.So he bought it for me.Also the dealer happenes to be 10 minutes from me which is a bonus ,not too mention i treated like royalty in there because of this old friend.All this prompted me to get an e-tec not just some rumours i heard over the internetsite like this one.cheers
George