The E-tec debate pros and cons

[saurian]

SJP , I'm no etec fan . Remember when a yamaha50 hp fourstroke was $11,000 odd dollars.
They can't stay above 4 stroke pricing forever....slug the customer while the goings good.
Ta

[leezor]

I agree Saurian, I was quoted more than $2k extra for an Etec 225 over a Suzuki DF225. Hard to justify the extra $, after all they do claim to be simpler, less parts etc etc etc, no prizes for guessing which way I went.

[finding_time]

Not only that, but the guy had set the motor one spot too low, which gave me all sorts of problems in getting the boat to plane as well as using more fuel again.

Hopes that helps,

Cheers

Geoff

Geoff

This is really funny Isn't that what evinrude did to the opti they put up against the E-tec in THAT add!! Maybe your installer was a opti guy at heart and was seeking revenge


Ian

Ps. the 2 things that sh!T me about E-tec's are the Advert's and Zealot's that have found God on the back of there boat and feel they have to tell the world about this new wonder!!!! Bloody worse than the born agains you lot!!

If the motors are as good as claimed they will gain full exceptance once a few have logged 3000 + engine hours, only time will tell and zealot's ranting's will not speed up this process for the careful consumer. The comments by Getout are interesting " 40hours without a problem" well i should bloody hope so as i can put this many hours on in 3 days , once he get's to 1000 hours then the talk should start, it's that sort of talk that will do E-tecs the most good.

[disorderly]

Has anybody else noticed that whenever E-tecs are mentioned people come crawling out of the woodwork everywhere with negative comments galore.

New scientific studies have just been released and a name has been given to this condition.

E-TEC OBSESSION SYNDROME has already claimed many victims and if not treated early can lead to the breakdown of affected individuals and there families.

Some of the symptoms include:-

Extreme ENVY toward those who have chosen E-Tecs as there brand of motor.

A deep seated desire to NEGATIVELY VERBALLY ATTACK owners of E-Tecs .

Onset of a INFERIORITY COMPLEX about there current motor.

A deep REGRET at not having chosen an E-Tec

If not treated victims can also begin to exhibit delusional behavior.Some recorded episodes include :-

Rantings about E-Tecs catching fire.

Fears of there boat being pulled underwater(particularly with 4 stroke owners.)

Spraypainting ones motor white or black and applying pirate copys of E-Tec stickers to the cowling(easily identified due to a spelling error ie E-tek)

Fabrication of E-tec incidents in an effort to damage there reputation.

If you or a loved one have experienced any of these above afflictions then dont hesitate .Contact our councillors at:-

ETEC'S ANONYMOUS call now on 1800 542 876

If left untreated ETEC OBSESSION SYNDROME can lead to PARANOIA and in some cases a lack of belief in there current choice of car,boat,motor even wife.


ETEC"S ANONYMOUS

1800 623 098

"We treat owners of all motor denominations"

[just_cruisin]

haha, this coming from someone by the name of "disordely"

Have a look at the intitial post to this thread. Someone trying to call the E-tec technology new, this my friend is what bugs people.

[finding_time]

Has anybody else noticed that whenever E-tecs are mentioned people come crawling out of the woodwork everywhere with negative comments galore.

New scientific studies have just been released and a name has been given to this condition.

E-TEC OBSESSION SYNDROME has already claimed many victims and if not treated early can lead to the breakdown of affected individuals and there families.

Some of the symptoms include:-

Extreme ENVY toward those who have chosen E-Tecs as there brand of motor.

A deep seated desire to NEGATIVELY VERBALLY ATTACK owners of E-Tecs .

Onset of a INFERIORITY COMPLEX about there current motor.

A deep REGRET at not having chosen an E-Tec

If not treated victims can also begin to exhibit delusional behavior.Some recorded episodes include :-

Rantings about E-Tecs catching fire.

Fears of there boat being pulled underwater(particularly with 4 stroke owners.)

Spraypainting ones motor white or black and applying pirate copys of E-Tec stickers to the cowling(easily identified due to a spelling error ie E-tek)

Fabrication of E-tec incidents in an effort to damage there reputation.

If you or a loved one have experienced any of these above afflictions then dont hesitate .Contact our councillors at:-

ETEC'S ANONYMOUS call now on 1800 542 876

If left untreated ETEC OBSESSION SYNDROME can lead to PARANOIA and in some cases a lack of belief in there current choice of car,boat,motor even wife.


ETEC"S ANONYMOUS

1800 623 098

"We treat owners of all motor denominations"

Bloody hell Disorderly!! Your exactally the type of Zealot i'm talking about!! You have obviously brought a E-tec and your very happy with it..Great! Now how about getting on with your life.

Ian

One question though... When you buy one, does the agent pair you up with another owner , put the pair of you on bicycles and send you out into the world to door knock people and extol the virtues of the Blessed E-tec's?

[Wahoo]

just checked out the web site on the 2008 etec
seems they are rebadgeing the name, looks good to























ASPRO - TEC


ok ok just kidding, im going now

[GBC]

ASPRO - TEC


I don't care who y'all are - that's some funny sh!t right there.

Please keep this thread going - work is killing me today.

How about I say something like - e-tecs fell out of the same genetis tree as the outboard that dare not speak its name..................

















ficht

[sea raider]

haha, this coming from someone by the name of "disordely"

Have a look at the intitial post to this thread. Someone trying to call the E-tec technology new, this my friend is what bugs people.

I have been reading this article these people seem to be very well informed
http://www.oceanskiffjournal.com/Sub...ral/ETEC1.aspx
I and sick to death about E-tec bashing just because people dont like new things or change. All brands of donks have there issues its a mater of wieghing them up to suit your purpose. I know people with other popular brands with major issuses but they put them asside. I think the PR of BRD is not the best its more yank wank stuff which is not suited by us dinkydie aussise. Please fell free to comment and I hope I have not offended to many people.

Please dont give up on the E-tec / poly jokes as they are funny

Cya Steve

Dont see anything about new technology in that!!

You having trouble reading Just_Cruisin???
Thats what bugs me, people making assumptions which are not right!!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Cheers

Geoff

[sea raider]

Geoff

This is really funny Isn't that what evinrude did to the opti they put up against the E-tec in THAT add!! Maybe your installer was a opti guy at heart and was seeking revenge


Ian

Ps. the 2 things that sh!T me about E-tec's are the Advert's and Zelot's that have found God on the back of there boat and feel they have to tell the world about this new wonder!!!! Bloody worse than the born agains you lot!!

If the motors are as good as claimed they will gain full exceptance once a few have logged 3000 + engine hours, only time will tell and zelot's ranting's will not speed up this process for the careful consumer. The comments by Getout are interesting " 40hours without a problem" well i should bloody hope so as i can put this many hours on in 3 days , once he get's to 1000 hours then the talk should start, it's that sort of talk that will do E-tecs the most good.

Ian,

Could be thats what happened to the the Opti, who would know???

Hey, I agree with you about the adverts, surely no realistic person would think they are very credible, but some of them (especially the guy who loses his clothes, which is the only one I've seen aired on Aussie TV) are very funny, I'm sure you would agree!

I also agree with you about the 1000+ hours, but, as a wise man (Confucius I think)once said, "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step". They have to start somewhere don't they. There should be some motors out there which are starting to rack up the hours, it would be interesting to here from some owners about how many hours they have knocked up!!

However, I do take offence to being called a zealot!

If someone asks me what I think of a product which I own or have owned and I have had a good experience with that product, then I am going to have nothing but good things to say about that product. Yes, there were some negatives with the e-tec, but they were all traced back to how the initial dealer set the thing up and not a problem with the product itself. I also cannot recollect any of the E-tec owners on this forum ranting about how good they are, I might be wrong, but all I have seen is people relating their good experiences with the motor. Yes, some (including myself) have got our backs up at some of the comments which have been thrown around and reacted accordingly.

Hey, if you dont want to read the good things about the E-tecs, then dont read the threads about them, because I can assure you , there will be a majority of good things said about them.

My five cents worth!!

Cheers

Geoff

[Greg P]

I thought the ad with the guy getting kneed in the crackers by the dealer was funny

[FNQCairns]

It's very hard to stay out of an e-tec thread I have no brand loyalties I am not a very commercial type of person, never impressed by stuff because it is new, more impressed by stuff if it works as designed for a design period as the minimum expectation.

As such I have a beef with injectors that cost $1200 each to replace also with fuel pumps that cost $1000 to replace and sensors that leave the owner majorly out of pocket with no end to the original problem. The above is not confined to just the high tech 2st the 4 strokes have their share.

The cost of ownership over 10 years per 100 engines today scares the daylights out of me but only because I have seen the era where any outboard sold that needed to go back for a trouble-shoot caused by design (not owner abuse) in the first 10 years of ownership got a real bagging as piece scat!

Times have changed owners in the US of some of the new 2st technology consider it typical if they need to replace a fuel pump, injector, a sensor all at 5 years and out of warranty for up to 25% of the new engine purchase price. Talk about a jip!

With injectors and typical use of a recreational outboards (layups for weeks at a time, fuel issues also) it is not beyond reality a person may need to replace every injector at some stage within 10 years!! also the fuel pump/s and a couple of sensors, this is real world stuff it will happen!

I can see engines costing an extra $10k to own for 10 years as not unbelievable, ahhh the price of progress.

there was a time when a large percentage would buy a 4cyl engine new, put it on and just run it for the next 10 years with only the most basic or nill maintenance and fully expect to be able to continue using it with nil problems, say 1 or 2 forced trips to the mechanics for crud in the carbs where they also change the impeller and leg oil while it is there, times have changed, but for me not in the direction I am comfortable with, on my dime anyway.

Just rambling, I like them all just wouldn't own any of them at this point in time, the optis have come good, the hpdi has also and the teething problems the e-tec has will also come good but they will all still be a pocket time bomb, each to their own what people look for in recreation.

cheers fnq

[just_cruisin]

Sea Raider, are you kidding youself.
'I am sick to death about E-tec bashing just because people dont like new things or change'
Are you trying to tell me the above statement is not talking about new technologies, cmon mate!!!

I am not trying to start arguments here. The initial poster requested comments on the issue.

By the way..Nice Avatar...

[finding_time]

Ian,

However, I do take offence to being called a zealot!



My five cents worth!!

Cheers

Geoff

Goeff

Dont take offense, but you are a zealot mate

A zealot is according to the collins dictionary an enthusiast and or fanatic! Anyone who as there avtar has a picture of there outboard can only be well on their way towards being a zealot But the fervour that you put into your support and defense of e-tec's at every oppertunity confirm's you as fully fledged Zealot.

If you were financially benifiting from E-tecs becomming more popular well this i can understand, but support for supports sake is just what what i've called it.

Ian

[samson]

My old 90 etec had 800 plus hours on the clock without much dramas got an upgrade since then 115 etec has 550 on the clock only probs with both engines so far has been that the throttle cables needed adjusting apart from that can't fault them, mind you the hours for both engines combined have only been clocked up over the last two and a half years a reasonably short period of time, but only time will tell how much punishment their willing to take as Finding Time has stated. I would not hesitate to get another which might be on the cards soon with a bigger boat on order soon but would love to try one of those suzuki fours to see what all the fuss is about, but that would only happen if the range in my boat was increased signifacantly thus making it justafiable as etecs are very reliable so far.
Cheers samson